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Crashing on zone and /pick - Help please!

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Gynter

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Post Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:24 am

Crashing on zone and /pick - Help please!

Hi guys!

Thanks for an awesome program! I do have one problem though, and it really is starting to get on my nerves. About 50% of the time I zone at least one client crashes. Sometimes 1 and sometimes all 6.

I would really appreciate all the help I can get in this manner!

http://pastebin.com/RZpiUZM2

Please let me know if you need any more information! :)

Thanks!
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bob

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Post Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:34 am

Re: Crashing on zone and /pick - Help please!

The usual path would be to shut down or uninstall any other programs that might be causing issues, and see if that improves it.
In your case, I would start by setting an exclude in you Antivirus from active/realtime scanning/protection on InnerSpace.exe and eqgame.exe. This is not the same as excluding from scanning altogether.
You might even want/need to uninstall your antivirus. This article from MS, while long, explains some stuff about filter drivers and then in a small bit of text explains....
KB816071 wrote:Most antivirus software uses filter drivers that work together with a service to scan for viruses. These filter drivers are still loaded after the service is deactivated. These filter drivers scan files as they are opened and closed on a hard disk. For troubleshooting purposes, temporarily remove the antivirus software


Second would be to monitor your computer and see if there are any spikes, whether on the GPU/CPU/Memory/IO (disk/network), at the time of the failure. There is a basic process here, but you will need to get further in depth for looking at IO if it comes to it. If you know how to use and understand the output of PerfMon and or ProcessMon that would help as these are the tools you may end up needing.

You might also consider removing anything you don't specifically need to play from the running active processes. Like UTorrent, GForceExperience, etc.
If this is a Windows 10 upgrade, did you update the Intel drivers too, including the chipset and storage items. These should be checked out.

Do you get crash reports? These should provide some kind of insight as to the failure point.
If not, you could use Procdump to capture one if the game is not generating one (some games do hide them too).
Code:
x:\folder\procdump -accepteula -e -t -ma -l -f "" -w "eqgame.exe" > x:\folder\procdump.log

You can run this at an Admin command prompt and it will wait for a crash of the named process and then it will write out logs and a memory dump.
The log file may provide some useful info. Otherwise the memory dump of the crash can be analysed with WinDbg or similar to see if you can get a stack trace out of it. Failing that, you can upload it to http://www.osronline.com/page.cfm?name=analyze and it might give you an indication (although the feedback there is not always the best).
If your dump is too big to be analysed online, you can try the -mp switch instead of -ma, or remove the -ma switch completely. This switch is to dump the complete memory of the crashing process, so is not really needed for a basic stack trace
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Gynter

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Post Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:57 pm

Re: Crashing on zone and /pick - Help please!

Hi again!

I have been doing some research with your help listed and might have located the problem. Seems like the antivirus program was the problem. I did not zone much today though, so will try it more another day.

Thanks a lot for all your help, and quick response! :)
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Gynter

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Post Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:41 am

Re: Crashing on zone and /pick - Help please!

After a lot of time looking into this matter I think that I finally figured out how to fix my problem.

It was not the antivirus as I thought at first. I also checked everything listed above with no luck.

What I finally did was to reinstall a fresh copy of Everquest. I did not bring anything from the old copy. So it seems like I had some kind of a corrupted file in my Everquest folder. I'm almost angry at myself for not thinking about trying this earlier, since the EQ folder was dated 2003.. :P
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Valerian

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Post Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:06 am

Re: Crashing on zone and /pick - Help please!

Out of curiosity, did you try a full file scan via eq launcher first, or just go straight for the clean install?
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tatanka7th

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Post Fri Oct 30, 2015 7:18 pm

Re: Crashing on zone and /pick - Help please!

Also, if the new EQ install was to a different directory (and if the old one was from 2003, it most likely is a different directory), you can always copy your init files, maps, and UI directories over to the new install. I did that once several years ago, worked like a charm.

Tat
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Gynter

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Post Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:07 pm

Re: Crashing on zone and /pick - Help please!

I did do a full file scan before I did the clean install but I still had the crashes. I thought about adding ini files and such from the old directory but decided to do a completely clean install to make it fool proof. If that wouldnt have worked I would have known it had nothing to do with my files...

Im just really happy that it works again :)

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