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Post Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:05 pm

Help for a clicker to broadcast mouse clicks

I just got this program to work after spending a few days figuring out why the game stuttered all the time when I was using isboxer (it was amd gaming evolved - guess it doesn't play nice with innerspace or isboxer).

Anyways, I am a clicker. Waiting for everyone to stop offering me advice to learn to hotkey lol.

I would like to setup a region or menu that would allow me to have a 2x10 area of action buttons (created by buttonforge and these buttons have NO hotkeys) that would allow to just mouseover my floating buttons and send the same click to current window as well the window of the alt account at the same time. It would be nice for it do the menu approach of assist and click if possible.

Couldn't figure this one out over last few days since every post and advice i saw was based upon creating menu which as I understand them are really just hotkey shortcuts that allow you to press hotkey or click on them - remember my layout of 2x10 buttons have no hotkeys and I do not really want to assign them (just another thing to figure out and only have 7 days to see if this will work for me).

Thanks for the help, hoping that I will still have some trial time left to try this out since been clicking for 8 years and just too old to learn new tricks.
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Post Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:51 pm

Re: Help for a clicker to broadcast mouse clicks

wowwowwow wrote:I would like to setup a region or menu that would allow me to have a 2x10 area of action buttons (created by buttonforge and these buttons have NO hotkeys) that would allow to just mouseover my floating buttons and send the same click to current window as well the window of the alt account at the same time. It would be nice for it do the menu approach of assist and click if possible.

Couldn't figure this one out over last few days since every post and advice i saw was based upon creating menu which as I understand them are really just hotkey shortcuts that allow you to press hotkey or click on them - remember my layout of 2x10 buttons have no hotkeys and I do not really want to assign them (just another thing to figure out and only have 7 days to see if this will work for me).

Thanks for the help, hoping that I will still have some trial time left to try this out since been clicking for 8 years and just too old to learn new tricks.

The most crude solution is going to be to use a Repeater Region.

So, first of all, I'd suggest getting rid of the Menu overlays since they'll just get in the way of this method (select your Character Set in the upper left pane of ISBoxer > then, in the bottom left pane, highlight the Standard Menu and press the Delete key). Then, in game, open up the ISBoxer in-game GUI (Ctrl Shift Alt G), go to the Repeater Region tab, create a new RR, and then resize it and put it where you want. Finally, save it as "Auto" if you want that RR to automatically load with that Character Set moving forward.
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Post Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:59 pm

Re: Help for a clicker to broadcast mouse clicks

Thanks for getting me started.

I was hoping for something like this (http://isboxer.com/wiki/WoW:Auto-assist ... a_clicking) so i do not need to create macros fro every spell (i could if that seems easier or better). However, the guide is written for pre 41 or something and some of the setting have changed so I do not know if i messed it up or if it would need to be programmed a different way.

Going to try to make macros (/assist NAME //cast SPELLNAME) for now to get started. Really want to give this program a chance, tried to do hotkeynet but there is limited support and you have to research every little thing you want to do so you can write the script.
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Post Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:17 pm

Re: Help for a clicker to broadcast mouse clicks

The only thing I can see that is different is:

7. Right click on Actions and, under Key Map Actions, select New Do Mapped Key Action 1. Set the Target to Window:Current
    2. Set the Key Map to Non-Combat
    3. Set the Mapped Key to Assist Me
The rest is pretty much the same.

I would be inclined to put the mouse sync and click into a separate mapped key, and then call that after the calling of the Assist Me mapped key. If only to resolve any potential misfire.

You could do the same thing with menus, although there are a few more pieces to it, but they are more templated than ClickBars.
Macros may also be good because you can setup the Assist settings, although depending on the Assist target, then it may be preferable for ISboxer to set that.

Basically, what MiRai said was the easiest option, except you said want to call an Assist first. That then makes it not such a simple solution so you will need to configure a few things, whether in ISBoxer or within WOW is up to you.



p.s. not sure if my rambling helps. it's late and I've had a few...
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Post Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:44 pm

Re: Help for a clicker to broadcast mouse clicks

thanks for all the help, kinda under gun for time so trying to get this worked out fast.

have macros for now - i'll try the auto assit click region thing if i get time or when i decide to get membership.
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Post Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:46 pm

Re: Help for a clicker to broadcast mouse clicks

So macros not as easy as I thought. I have my macro spells for my alt such as /assist NAME /cast Shadow Word: Pain. What i did was place an unmacro'd spell on main and the macro spell on alt. Woks fine as long as I am controlling the main, when I switch to the alt as master my other toon just sits there since he doesnt have a macro'd spell. How would i set this up so it would assist the master rather than assist NAME?
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Post Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:12 am

Re: Help for a clicker to broadcast mouse clicks

wowwowwow wrote:So macros not as easy as I thought. I have my macro spells for my alt such as /assist NAME /cast Shadow Word: Pain. What i did was place an unmacro'd spell on main and the macro spell on alt. Woks fine as long as I am controlling the main, when I switch to the alt as master my other toon just sits there since he doesnt have a macro'd spell. How would i set this up so it would assist the master rather than assist NAME?

This is why setting key bindings in game, and having ISBoxer send those key bindings with an assist macro, is set up to be the default approach... because it's the simplest, and most straightforward, regardless if you actually use those key bindings in game or not (it also allows you to assist from any window).

However, the other thing you can do at the moment is assign your mouse buttons to be your assist and follow keys, and you'll have to press the assist button on your mouse prior to clicking the abilities on your action bar.
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Post Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:02 am

Re: Help for a clicker to broadcast mouse clicks

The more i think about it - the more i think i should just make 2 menus 10 buttons each and resize them to overlay my ssetup (i could use alt and ctrl modifiers and hotkey the buttons that buttonforge createad). Going to try this since what I am doing now just isnt really working that well.

Thanks for the help.
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Post Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:51 pm

Re: Help for a clicker to broadcast mouse clicks

Ok so this is not going so well any more. I tried to do this (http://isboxer.com/wiki/Menu) to duplicate the menus so I can place them over the buttons that buttonforge created (I have hotkeyed the 2 rows of 10 buttons each). Problem I am having it that it will only show the standard menu bar and never the added menu bar.

Any help would be appreciated since I was not able to the assist and repeater region working correctly either.

Finally got it to show the standard menu2 like in the video however I can not ever get it to show standarad menu3 (to use ctrl instead of alt like in video).

Beginning to get discouraged, it seems like it always pulling teeth just to try to play as a clicker, and even more so when I try to setup multiple menu bars to get the assist function. 2 hours of trying to make this program clicker friendly means no leveling tonight, hopefully can figure this out tomorrow but time is running out.
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Post Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:47 am

Re: Help for a clicker to broadcast mouse clicks

Without seeing your config it hard to tell where it is going wrong, but at a guess....
Menus don't show up until they are assigned to your character set/characters (one being a super set of the other). You can assign to your character set, by selecting your character set in the top left pane, selecting Menus in the lower left pane, and then highlighting the appropriate menu(s) on the lower right pane. Then Export to InnerSpace.

If you only want to assign to a specific character and not the whole character set, then do the same thing by selecting the Character in the top left pane, Menus in the lower left pane, and then the appropriate menu in the lower right pane.

If it doesn't show up after assignment, then there are potentially a few of things wrong.
1. The starting position is off screen or the exact same as another menu, so you have one on top of the other.
2. You have no menu template assigned
3. Your menu template has no buttons (Number of Buttons)
4. Your menu template has a Grid Rows x Columns of 0x0 (or you have used a comma or something other than formatted layout of NxN)
5. Your menu template has a Button Width x Height of 0x0 (or you have used a comma or something other than formatted layout of NxN)
6. Your menu template has a Button Margin not using the formatted layout of N,N (i.e. this one uses a comma)
7. You have ticked the Popup Menu, and you aren't right clicking the mouse.
8. You menu is there and visible, but the other settings mean you can't see the buttons, e.g. no borders...


And you're right. Menus are a little tricky to get around and there are a few quirks to working with them, but once you see what is going on, they really aren't too bad.
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