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Post Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:20 am

ISBOXER 41 & JAMBA 4.1.1

I am an experienced JAMBA user and would use it with keycone. My playing style would set macros for all slaves to /target focustarget then keybind the interact with target to loot or pickup/turn in quest. I would press the 1 button to target mains target then then ` to interact. I also liked to use the WASD keys to move around. Jamba handled the auto follow and strobing really well in the past but I can no longer get it to work. I am constantly spamming the ALT-F for them to follow main. I believe there is settings inside ISBOXER that is over riding JAMBA but I can't find any current guides, everything dates back 2+ years ago. I know that JAMBA has had a major rework and most of the features I liked are no longer there like slaves only loot quest items and the follow strobing isn't as reliable now.

I am running a 5 man team with 1 melee tank, and 4 range. I can get everybody to follow and assist attacking, but things get screwed up when I tell slaves to loot. The interact with target that JAMBA controlled in the past the slaves would walk to target loot quest items then back on follow isn't working. At my current rate the week trial will be up before my team hits lvl 2.
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Post Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:54 pm

Re: ISBOXER 41 & JAMBA 4.1.1

See http://isboxer.com/wiki/WoW:Interact_with_Target.

Wow:interact with target


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Post Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:29 pm

Re: ISBOXER 41 & JAMBA 4.1.1

I'm going to suggest that if you cannot see the text on that page then you may have some issues with your browser (or some browser addon/filter), or you are typing in the URL directly and getting it incorrect. If it is a link in the WIKI with no backing page, it will show up in red text.

As for your initial post, it sounds like you are having trouble with JAMBA, and not ISBoxer. The two tend to behave side by side quite nicely, and while they both provide some functions which are similar, they don't tend to stand on each others toes.

About the only time you will have an issue is if you set a hotkey for a JAMBA function to be the same as a trigger for the WOW Game Helper in ISBoxer (which is exported as the ISBoxer Addon for WOW). If these two overlap then the ISBoxer Addon should report this in game. This fails because you cannot have two in game functions bound to the same keypress.
The rest of it, by default ISBoxer does have some preconfigured mapped keys for JAMBA setups, but these are inactive initially, so should not cause any interference. The only one that is active initially is the issuing of "/jamba-team iammaster all" when you switch between characters.
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Post Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:28 pm

Re: ISBOXER 41 & JAMBA 4.1.1

Think i have narrowed my problem down more I am running with broadcast OFF so I can move with the typical WASD keys, but its not broadcasting the mouse. Guess ideally master uses keyboard and mouse, and slaves use top row of keyboard, spacebar (so they can jump) and mouse

JAMBA is most definitely a problem I have my lead set to master and pushed the settings to the minions. But some how the master keeps changing and JAMBA is acting different on each toon. Then because the ISBOXER? changes master when I click on new screen it screws the team up and they stop following. Then I am having problems picking up and sharing quest, then pick same loot and auto turn in. Again I think it is because some where my master keeps being changed.
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Post Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:05 pm

Re: ISBOXER 41 & JAMBA 4.1.1

When broadcast is off, then yes, mouse broadcasting doesn't happen. This is usually a good thing because your camera views are different, so you only really want it for 2d things, like menus and similar, except for the odd occasion.
If you really want mouse broadcasting and not keyboard, then in the Always On keymap you can set a hotkey on the Activate Mouse Repeat mapped key.

For Master/Slave movement operations I tend to create mapped keys on CTRL+W, CTRL+A, CTRL+S, CTRL+D, CTRL+SPACE to send to the standard WASD, SPACE to the other characters. You can do this easily with a Key Remap in the Mapped Key Wizard.

The rest of the config about who uses which keys, or whether you have all the toons using the keys but pushing different rotations is up to you. Frankly it is boring trying to configure each character so they do the right thing when I broadcast the 1 key, I'd much rather press the 1 key and have all the toons do all the right action in the rotation they were cycling. Or I press the 2 key and they run a different rotation (well, some might continue on the previous rotation, but maybe the healers kick in with the heals rather than addition DPS). I do stretch a little here because I use a G13, so the key I press is actually G13-G13 or G13-G6, but you get the idea (hopefully).


As for JAMBA, ISBoxer has a mapped key in Always On, called JambaMaster. This is executed on character switch. This is designed to tell JAMBA who the current Main character is, so when you switch to another toon, the slaves all follow the new main, i.e. the character you have switched too. Most people like this feature, so the characters follow the toon your driving rather than a different toon. You can disable it in JAMBA, or you can remove the Mapped Key on switch which is set to execute on each Slot in a character set. As for your config issues, this might be that ISboxer uses different WTF files for each character, but as other people don't have this issue, I can only guess that something is incorrect in your install, whether something in the file paths, multiple WOW installs or something else. Unfortunately this is not the JAMBA helpdesk, and I am not immensely familiar with it, although someone else may have some ideas, but there is usually good help in the WOW Addon forum on dual-boxing.com.
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Post Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:46 am

Re: ISBOXER 41 & JAMBA 4.1.1

I really think my problem is Im use to setting up the old Jamba and I wasn't aware just how much ISBOXER is tied into JAMBA. I installed the programs and followed Lax's video guide. But I was starting up fresh team and figured I had to config JAMBA like normal enabling the quest watcher feature. Another issue I'm having is on Blizzard seems a party doesn't share quest loot on most of the quest so it ended up taking me 5x longer to level (10 hides for 5 toons = 50 hides and they aren't 100% drop so kill 100+ for just 1 quest!)

My biggest issues now is the strobing, 2 priest (free accounts) keep stopping for no reason! Pulling what's left of my hair out on that one. Then the strobe following wrong toon. Playing #1 and #2 has to loot item, swap to #2 loot then swap back. Combat ends #1 now follow/strobe #3. It doesn't always snap to current master, the current master will get hit with the strobing and get spun around to strobe on slave I put up with that for 8 hours trying to level them up for dungeon ques. The strobe target will change its not always same minion but its never current master.

I don't remember if I solved the master issue I was having. When I first start up and invite party I look at /jamba-team the toon I'm on will say its master? Guessing that's ISBOXER changing because I click on that screen? I ended up making macros on each saying /jamba-follow strobeonme all & /jamba-team iammaster all. But I'm guessing that ISBOXER is configured to do that for me and I just changed a setting and screwed it up too.

Is there a printable table with all hotkeys? I"m having enough trouble remembering mine much less ISBOXER too.

Still can't setup my G502 mouse either, ISBOXER sees the mouse/buttons but they aren't working inside of WoW.

Sorry for the rambling long day with migraine.
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Post Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:54 am

Re: ISBOXER 41 & JAMBA 4.1.1

Tink8792 wrote:Another issue I'm having is on Blizzard seems a party doesn't share quest loot on most of the quest so it ended up taking me 5x longer to level (10 hides for 5 toons = 50 hides and they aren't 100% drop so kill 100+ for just 1 quest!)

I'm not sure this is an issue, rather than just the way that it is. Whether you're partied with a friend, or multiboxing the characters yourself, everyone in the party has to have the quest items. However, these days the majority of drop quests are now party wide.

Tink8792 wrote:My biggest issues now is the strobing, 2 priest (free accounts) keep stopping for no reason! Pulling what's left of my hair out on that one. Then the strobe following wrong toon. Playing #1 and #2 has to loot item, swap to #2 loot then swap back. Combat ends #1 now follow/strobe #3. It doesn't always snap to current master, the current master will get hit with the strobing and get spun around to strobe on slave I put up with that for 8 hours trying to level them up for dungeon ques. The strobe target will change its not always same minion but its never current master.

I don't remember if I solved the master issue I was having. When I first start up and invite party I look at /jamba-team the toon I'm on will say its master? Guessing that's ISBOXER changing because I click on that screen? I ended up making macros on each saying /jamba-follow strobeonme all & /jamba-team iammaster all. But I'm guessing that ISOBOXER is configured to do that for me and I just changed a setting and screwed it up too.

Without seeing your profile it's almost impossible to say what you might be doing (especially since we can't see your in-game macros, or how you may be executing them), but if you're trying to use your own JAMBA macros while ISBoxer is trying to do what it does, then there could be some sort of conflict and you should probably be using one or the other. ISBoxer does handle the swapping of the JAMBA "master" character, and you can see how that's set up on the General tab (I believe) under each Slot of your Character Set.

As for strobing abruptly stopping... Are you certain you're actually strobing and not just using normal follow? If you're only using normal follow, then it could be several things that are breaking follow.

Tink8792 wrote:Is there a printable table with all hotkeys? I"m having enough trouble remembering mine much less ISOBOXER too.

Unfortunately, there is not.

Tink8792 wrote:Still can't setup my G502 mouse either, ISOBOXER sees the mouse/buttons but they aren't working inside of WoW.

This is not a JAMBA issue, but you need to run all software related to your mouse specifically as an administrator.

Tink8792 wrote:ISOBOXER

ISBoxer is:

Inner
Space
Boxer
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Post Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:45 am

Re: ISBOXER 41 & JAMBA 4.1.1

As for strobing abruptly stopping... Are you certain you're actually strobing and not just using normal follow? If you're only using normal follow, then it could be several things that are breaking follow.


If that was the case then wouldn't I have problems with ALL following? and not just the priest?

Tink8792 wrote:
ISOBOXER


ISBoxer is:

Inner
Space
Boxer


Thanks for being and ASS I wrote that on my droid 2" screen 4 in the morning in the dark with a migraine. I'm guessing the spell check changed spelling and I didn't notice.
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Post Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:18 am

Re: ISBOXER 41 & JAMBA 4.1.1

</WoWMacro>
<WoWMacro>
<PreCommand>None</PreCommand>
<MacroCommands>/jamba-follow strobeon Name1 all</MacroCommands>
<TargetLastTarget>false</TargetLastTarget>
<Name>JambaStrobeOn</Name>
<ColloquialName>JambaStrobe ON</ColloquialName>
<Combo>

I am guessing that the above line is part of my problem, I believe that I changed it from the default to my Master and I need to change it back.

http://pastebin.com/kWAuQcmC

I am also getting a keybinding error for F11, I don't think that is one that I have setup.
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Post Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:11 am

Re: ISBOXER 41 & JAMBA 4.1.1

Remove the character name.
The macros by default are:
JambaMaster -> /jamba-team iammaster all
JambaStrobe ON -> /jamba-follow strobeonme all
JambaStobe OFF -> /jamba-follow strobeoff all

Not that the two strobe macros are run because you have no hotkey set on the Mapped Keys in Always On.
The link that refers to SHIFT+ALT+F being a default is old, and does not look like it applies any more, although the Macros themselves do have in game binds set (because all WOW macros need them), which are SHIFT+ALT+F12 (ON) and CTRL+SHIFT+ALT+F12 (OFF). Usually though you'd set a Hotkey on the mapped key that wasn't quite so cumbersome to press during play.

Also, in your Interact With Target mapped key, you have changed the first Action (Do Click to Move On in Always On Key Map) to have a target of "all other" (or Window: All w/o Current), when this should really be "self" (or Window:Current). This is because the Click to Move On mapped key (the one being called) sets a different target, so when you call this, you only want to call it once (this is what that big long popup message is trying to tell you when you select this action). At the moment, you have all you other game windows calling this (so Druid 2), and this then asks all your other windows (Druid 1) to turn CTM on. When really you want Druid 1 (self) to tell all other windows (Druid 2) to turn CTM on. And then in the Always On -> Click To Move Off you have changed the Target to target slot 1, when really it should just target "self" (Window:Current).
This probably explains some of your issues with the Interact With Target setup

If you want to start afresh you can use the File -> Clear option, and then rerun the Quick Setup Wizard from the Wizards menu.

Oh, and the F11 comes from the fact that ISBoxer uses it for it's Follow macro (not the same as the JAMBA follow), so if you have any in game binds on F11 or CTRL/SHIFT/ALT+F11 then you may end up with some odd behaviours.
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