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Carter Aideron

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Post Wed May 21, 2014 9:24 pm

Problem with Framerates

So I recently got ISBoxer to run many of my characters at the same time in Eve. When I launch them one by one without ISBoxer, the frame rate is quite high. It never drops below 30 and usually stays at least in the 40s somewhere. However, when I got ISBoxer and configured it to launch the clients, the clients would launch but hardly ever exceed 15 fps. I usually run high setting on all 6 clients without any problem. But here I decided to drop some of the settings to medium and low but the frame rate stayed the same as if nothing changed.I was wondering what I could do to resolve this issue. Any help would be great.

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Post Wed May 21, 2014 10:11 pm

Re: Problem with Framerates

Launching the game client outside of Inner Space is not the same as launching it in a Character Set. By default, Inner Space renders the game clients at the same resolution as Region 1 of your Window Layout so that your mouse cursor lines up nice and neat (this is extremely important in EVE). So, even though the windows are scaled down (I'm assuming how your Window Layout is configured), they're rendering at their full size.

You could also be launching the game in DX11 rather than DX9 (DX 9 takes less resources to run), but in any case you can monitor what your hardware is doing by following the steps outlined here:
http://isboxer.com/wiki/HOWTO:Tweak_you ... ottlenecks
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Carter Aideron

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Post Thu May 22, 2014 12:39 am

Re: Problem with Framerates

Alright, thanks for that. So I guess I'll try experimenting with some settings to see if anything improves.
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Carter Aideron

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Post Thu May 22, 2014 1:21 am

Re: Problem with Framerates

So I ran the open hardware monitor and these were the results...

Sensors

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+- Intel Core i7 920 (/intelcpu/0)
| +- Bus Speed : 133.638 133.636 133.649 (/intelcpu/0/clock/0)
| +- CPU Core #1 : 1603.65 1603.64 2806.62 (/intelcpu/0/clock/1)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 1603.65 1603.64 2806.62 (/intelcpu/0/clock/2)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 1603.65 1603.64 2806.62 (/intelcpu/0/clock/3)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 1603.65 1603.64 2806.62 (/intelcpu/0/clock/4)
| +- CPU Core #1 : 57 52 65 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/0)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 57 52 71 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/1)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 57 51 69 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/2)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 59 51 67 (/intelcpu/0/temperature/3)
| +- CPU Total : 15.1515 0.192308 81.7308 (/intelcpu/0/load/0)
| +- CPU Core #1 : 16.6667 0 86.1539 (/intelcpu/0/load/1)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 8.33334 0 81.5385 (/intelcpu/0/load/2)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 14.3939 0 75.3846 (/intelcpu/0/load/3)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 21.2121 0 83.8462 (/intelcpu/0/load/4)
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+- Generic Memory (/ram)
| +- Memory : 37.5286 20.2959 41.2201 (/ram/load/0)
| +- Used Memory : 6.00132 3.24558 6.59164 (/ram/data/0)
| +- Available Memory : 9.99 9.39968 12.7457 (/ram/data/1)
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+- AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series (/atigpu/0)
| +- GPU Core : 0.825 0.825 1.235 (/atigpu/0/voltage/0)
| +- GPU Core : 300 300 1020 (/atigpu/0/clock/0)
| +- GPU Memory : 150 150 1150 (/atigpu/0/clock/1)
| +- GPU Core : 32 32 34 (/atigpu/0/temperature/0)
| +- GPU Core : 0 0 77 (/atigpu/0/load/0)
| +- GPU Fan : 1098 1077 1106 (/atigpu/0/fan/0)
| +- GPU Fan : 20 20 20 (/atigpu/0/control/0)
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+- AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series (/atigpu/6)
| +- GPU Core : 1.235 0.95 1.235 (/atigpu/6/voltage/0)
| +- GPU Core : 1020 300 1020 (/atigpu/6/clock/0)
| +- GPU Memory : 1150 1150 1150 (/atigpu/6/clock/1)
| +- GPU Core : 56 42 57 (/atigpu/6/temperature/0)
| +- GPU Core : 20 0 64 (/atigpu/6/load/0)
| +- GPU Fan : 1142 1119 1157 (/atigpu/6/fan/0)
| +- GPU Fan : 28 20 30 (/atigpu/6/control/0)


So as you could see here the cores only peaked at around 86% and that was only for a second when it was launching, the rest of the time it was around 20%. Them ram peaked at 41% with 10gb of spare memory. The 2 graphics cards peaked at 64% and 77% respectively. All of the temperatures stayed in the low to mid 60s wit only a few going higher than that. So to me it seems as though nothing in my system is actually reaching its limit. However, whenever I try to move my ship it just puts me down at around 10 fps. So I'm a bit confused at the moment as to what is going on.
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Post Thu May 22, 2014 6:12 am

Re: Problem with Framerates

The 2 graphics cards

Depending on the Window Layout you chose, this may be the problem. There is a huge performance penalty if you or your Window Layout moves a window from one video card to the other -- http://isboxer.com/wiki/GPU_Management

It might help to see your configuration in order to continue helping with this. http://isboxer.com/wiki/Configuration_Sharing

Additionally if it only drops while you're touching buttons, it could also be related to malware. "Diagnostics for game crashes" from ISBoxer's Help menu may help diagnose that sort of thing. http://isboxer.com/wiki/Diagnostics
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Carter Aideron

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Post Thu May 22, 2014 9:00 pm

Re: Problem with Framerates

So I did both the configuration sharing and the crash test. The link for the configuration is http://privatepaste.com/d915c0e27d and the link for the crash test is http://privatepaste.com/1a03375e47. Hopefully this helps somewhat in figuring out whats wrong.
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Post Fri May 23, 2014 6:06 am

Re: Problem with Framerates

I see that your Window Layout puts all of the game windows on the same monitor, so the framerate issue is probably not multi-GPU related unless it's caused by the setting inside the game that picks a monitor, and/or the game's windowed mode is set to Fixed Window (if it is, try setting to windowed or fullscreen instead)

Otherwise this sounds moderately suspect:
Code:
10. amBXFxGen - Process ID: 4600 (C:\Program Files\amBX\Gaming FXGen\win32\amBXFxGen.exe)

Shut this program down and see if that makes a difference
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Carter Aideron

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Post Sat May 24, 2014 7:32 am

Re: Problem with Framerates

Ya I tried disabling all that and it still did not do anything for me at all. I tried messing with the ingame settings and it still remained at pretty low fps. Well then I was about to give up but I noticed that there is a particular program that constantly launches with the game ever single time. It's call Raptr and its this new program that AMD implimented to kinda keep track of your in-game progress and then optimize the graphics settings afterwards. It's part of their new AMD Evolve thing. Well anyways I closed out of that and all of a sudden my framerate went from a crappy 10 or so maybe even lower to close to 70 fps so I guess that solved all the problems. But thanks for all your help man :)
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Post Sat May 24, 2014 10:49 am

Re: Problem with Framerates

Ahh, okay. I was wondering what that was. Thanks for letting us know your solution :)
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Post Mon May 26, 2014 7:55 pm

Re: Problem with Framerates

Carter Aideron wrote:Ya I tried disabling all that and it still did not do anything for me at all. I tried messing with the ingame settings and it still remained at pretty low fps. Well then I was about to give up but I noticed that there is a particular program that constantly launches with the game ever single time. It's call Raptr and its this new program that AMD implimented to kinda keep track of your in-game progress and then optimize the graphics settings afterwards. It's part of their new AMD Evolve thing. Well anyways I closed out of that and all of a sudden my framerate went from a crappy 10 or so maybe even lower to close to 70 fps so I guess that solved all the problems. But thanks for all your help man :)


Nvidia also has a program similar to that. It's the GeForce Experience (or something along those lines). That caused some problems for me till I told it to stop auto-correcting.
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