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Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

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slainster

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Post Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:36 pm

Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

Hello,

My InnerSpace client did an auto update this last weekend, since then I have been experiencing really bad latency when playing D3. I's reached a point where I just have to give up and switch single player mode as multiboxing is just not feasible. Just wondering if anyone else has seen similar issues, or what I can do start troubleshooting this please?

Is it possible to rollback to an earlier version?
Is it possible to stop the auto update?

Thanks,
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Post Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:55 pm

Re: Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

If you are running the development build, disable this (right click Inner Space icon, select Console - you can stop the auto update here too).
It is preferable to see if you have something on your PC that could be causing interference first before rolling back, otherwise you could be stuck in the no update world, which might be bad should a new D3 patch come along. If you want to try this, please provide a diagnostic, or perhaps your cpu strategy is hitting you (this will require a profile). If you prefer to do things yourself you could check out this too.

If not, then the release notes are at http://www.lavishsoft.com/release/innerspace/all, and these don't show an update last weekend, so I assume you were on an older release, and just hadn't played for a week.

Anyway, you can download older versions from here. You need to log in to your lavishsoft.com account first to access this. Follow the instructions on the page.
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Post Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:44 am

Re: Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

I assume one would need to choose to run in dev mode? Not something I would normally do myself, as I would prefer stability over latest features. I did try troubleshooting the performance, my initial thoughts were something was hogging resources on my pc, but only Chrome was running, which I did close with no real change.

Not sure what you mean by CPU strategy, but assume ISboxer can handle something advanced here. For info I have turned multi threading off on my pc as having the individual cores do the work when using another application installed allows it to perform better. I assume this would not really be an issue for ISBoxer anyhow.

I will see how I get on tonight, then look to creating the diagnostics profile if things are still not playing ball.

Thanks for the response.
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Post Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:56 am

Re: Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

slainster wrote:Not sure what you mean by CPU strategy, but assume ISboxer can handle something advanced here.

ISBoxer can set affinity per process. In other words, it can limit the number of cores, and which cores, that a given instance of a game can run on. This is useful when you have single threaded games (nothing is truly single threaded these days, just sometimes the UI thread has been programmed to manage all the task dispatching and wait for a response before updating the UI or processing further input), or game instances that do not play nice with each other (EQ was a bit like this).

slainster wrote:For info I have turned multi threading off on my pc as having the individual cores do the work when using another application installed allows it to perform better.

I don't understand what you mean here, but taking it verbatim, then this would be your problem as it reads like you are setting affinity for every program, or you are just running on a single core for the whole shebang.
If you mean you have disabled HyperThreading, don't do that. While not physical cores, HyperThreaded Cores provides approximately a 30% performance increase on CPU's that support it.
There are other variations of what you could mean here, but simply, don't do it, because it will probably be limiting the potential performance.

ISBoxer has an option in the CPU Strategy Wizard (In the Wizards menu) which says "Select all CPUs with every window (HyperThreading)......". This is usually the bottom option in the drop down. You should select this one (and check the FPS settings too, which should limit to 60/30 or 30/30). It basically means that each game instance will be allowed to run on all cores. Which is exactly the same as if you ran all game instances normally, i.e. at the same time without ISBoxer. This lets Windows manage the CPU scheduling. Windows has a fairly sophisticated pre-emptive scheduler which has been developed and tweaked over the last 25+ years, so you should let it do it's job.
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Post Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:44 am

Re: Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

So I have tried a couple of things today: multithreading was turned back on while I play Diablo (not convinced this makes any difference to Diablo anyhow), I have reduced the resolution for game play down to 1280x720 with no improvement in game play, having tried a few other resolutions before knocking it right down - I have not tried 800x600, I really do not want play in a screen that small..

I have also tried different CPU strategies with no difference again. All graphics in game are turned off or on the lowest setting, FPS has been limited to 80\30 (should this be lower?)

I have been running the Hardware monitor suggested, initially the graphics load on GPU core was showing 90%, memory and CPU were 50-60%. Lowering the resolution has lowered the GPU load to about 70%.

I guess the main point for me here is that this has been working very well for sometime now @ 1920x1200, and now all of a sudden I cant even seem to get 1280x720 resolution to work. I am at a loss as to what else I can do at this point..
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Post Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:52 am

Re: Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

Lowered down to 1024x768, GPU core load hovering at a firm 50%, gameplay still extremely poor :( will quit for now as its just not playable at all
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Post Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:57 am

Re: Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

Did you revert the Inner Space version to 6023? Some people have reported results from that (although it was for crashing rather than lag).

edit: you also have not provided a diagnostic.
And you might consider that perhaps the issue is not the computer per say, but perhaps the network connection (wireless/wired), router, DNS, VPN, Proxy, ISP, Blizzard etc. Have you tried any diagnostics like trace routet or even ping?, plugging into a different port, not using wireless?
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Post Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:03 am

Re: Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

No, I have not downgraded, thought I would try get the issue fixed first as you suggested. Ill download in a bit and see if this helps
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Post Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:13 am

Re: Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

slainster wrote:No, I have not downgraded, thought I would try get the issue fixed first as you suggested. Ill download in a bit and see if this helps

And it was a good plan too, but instead of giving up just now, downgrade it, because that's when you said the issue initially occurred, and you should rule it out. It was always going to be one of the options.
At least you know with the current settings your PC isn't being stressed so it has been ruled out.

Also, I would also try creating a new Window Layout in ISboxer just to see if Windows has reordered the displays, as this has caused issues as detailed here: viewtopic.php?p=31081#p31081 (yes I know it says Lotro, but it is the Window Layout/display part that I'm referring to, as that applies to all games).
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Post Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:04 am

Re: Major lag since InnerSpace update last weekend

Just an update on this issue for me...

..last night I downgraded to 6023 as suggested, however this did not change the poor gameplay I had been experiencing.

I then moved on to the second suggestion deleting all screen layouts associated with the character set, and recreated a fresh layout using the wizard, this did seem to result in a positive change of experience.

I did not have much time to test last night, so will update again once I have had a chance to run a full rift, hopefully tonight, but certainly running through a few densely populated maps last night did ultimately feel better, and there were no red bars on the in game latency meter. If the rift goes well, Ill re-enable the auto update feature, and see if that then changes anything.

Thanks again for your assistance thus far.

Shane
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