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4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

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isbsage

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Post Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:17 am

4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

Hey,
I'm having a big problem with isboxer since i started to play with the wizard class. I've quad boxed DHs and Barbs and it eas all right, even with some graphic options set to "High ( like Physics, Clutter Density etc ). It was smooth, as expected.

However, since i've started to play with 4x wizards, my screen starts to freeze/lag when there are multiple mobs near ( due to multiple torandoes, shoking armor damage etc ). After a few seconds, it goes abck to normal, then it starts to freeze/lag again and so on. This happens mostly when there are multiple enemies or multiple spells going on. My question is: is this happening because of my graphic card or because of my internet bandwith ? ( i have a GeForce GTX 560 and around 13MB download and under 1Mb upload speed )
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I've tried to lower D3 quality settings to low or even OFF, but the problem persists and that makes me think it's not the graphic card that sucks. It may be due to the low upload speed ?

Thanks in advance for your answers :)
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lax

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Post Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:33 am

Re: 4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

It's probably going to be either CPU or GPU.

You'll need to do what is described in this section to be sure: HOWTO: Tweak your framerate, Identifying framerate bottlenecks
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isbsage

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Post Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:08 pm

Re: 4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

Thanks for info, lax :)
Here are the screens from Hardware Monitor when quad boxing 4 Wizards and 4 DHS

4x Wizards:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26 ... izard.jpg/

4x DH:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40 ... tordh.jpg/

I've noticed the max GPU Core was at 92% with DHs ( runs smooth ) and 99% with Wizards ( lag/temporary screen freeze ), so i suppose it's the GPU, as you suggested, isn't it ?

LATER EDIT:
Changed everything to lowest value, changed resolution from 1360x768 to 800x600, GPU max values were much lower this time but it STILL have the same problem: lag/temporary screen freeze !
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/71 ... 0x600.png/

Now i'm not that sure anymore that it's the GPU that has a problem :ugeek:

Any other suggestions in order to fix this ?
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Kicksome

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Post Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:16 pm

Re: 4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

I have the same problem, I'm almost certain it's a Blizzard server issue. You'll see this when you single play with 3 other wizards doing AOE. I've also heard people complain on the official forums about the lag with lots of mobs and wizard AOE.

I heard the 1.0.8 patch is supposed to have some performance improvements - people say things are a lot faster on the PTR.
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isbsage

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Post Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:19 am

Re: 4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

Thanks for answer, mate. Then i'll just wait till 1.08 goes live and see if they fix it :D
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isboxjelifah

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Post Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:08 pm

Re: 4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

I'm currently running 4 x TR Monk and it's great do zoom, but I think I want a change of pace

How do you like 4 x Wizards?
Will 1.0.8 see a huge buff for Multibox Wizards?
Mind sharing your build?
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23teeth

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Post Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:24 pm

Re: 4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

I just started 4x CM wiz a couple days ago because i wanted to see what MP10 was all about, since i could never do that with my 4x strafe DH. I believe the biggest issue is the Chain Reaction rune on Explosive blast, i have since changed to Obliterate for more reach to easily kill white mobs that are on the outer ring of frost nova, and have noticed a large difference in the horrid freeze for like 2-3 seconds then everything explodes (including your wizards haha) and the dps loss is not really a big deal.

*edit* looks like Storm Armor - Shocking Aspect is a main offender too, i kill plenty fast without it, and pinpoint barrier is still a great dps boost and the crit chance is nice, but yeah never using those 2 runes every again :X

Mp10 is not much of a problem with this setup. just have to teleport around the molten explosions and make sure you don't eat too many arcane beams.

i have 2 frost nova's which seems sufficient, and 2 Slow Time. One that gives 10% atk speed, and 20% dmg buff, makes killing soo much faster.

Only reason im using Galvanizing Ward is because i forget about Armor since im new to wiz, and Evocation is meh, and there arent any other amazing passives i feel like using.

1st wiz - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Teeth-1542/hero/32837607

Diamond skin - diamond shards
Explosive Blast - Obliterate
Frost Nova - Bone Chill
Energy Armor - Pinpoint barrier
Energy Twister - Wicked wind
Teleport - Wormhole

2nd wiz - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Teeth-1416/hero/32837617

Diamond skin - diamond shards
Explosive Blast - Obliterate
Slow Time - Stretch Time
Energy Armor - Pinpoint barrier
Energy Twister - Wicked wind
Teleport - Wormhole

3rd wiz - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Teeth-1930/hero/32837613

Diamond skin - diamond shards
Explosive Blast - Obliterate
Slow Time - Time Warp
Energy Armor - Pinpoint barrier
Energy Twister - Wicked wind
Teleport - Wormhole

4th wiz http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Teeth-1673/hero/32837638

Diamond skin - diamond shards
Explosive Blast - Obliterate
Frost Nova - Bone Chill
Energy Armor - Pinpoint barrier
Energy Twister - Wicked wind
Teleport - Wormhole
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isboxjelifah

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Post Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:00 am

Re: 4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

Amazingly informative!

thank you for taking the time to write all that up.

Edit: I think others might wonder about the gear set for his stuff, since I did. So here's what I noted:

The below will get you 160k dps and 210 EHP
Code:
Helm      - Storm crow with crit chance
Shoulders - Vile Ward [i](Not crafted Shoulders?)[/i]
Amulet    - 8% crit chance, 80% Crit damage and 100 Int
Chest     - Zuni Marrow (180 Int and 240 Vit)
Gloves    - 8% crit chance, 30% crit damage and 200 int (Kind of all over the map )
Bracers   - Lacuni with crit chance
Belt      - Witching Hour All Res
Pants     - Blackthorn Jousting Mail (150 Int and 150 Vit)
Rings     - crit chance and Int (then 1 ring with crit damage the other with attack speed)
Boots     - Zunimassa's trail (150 Int)
Mainhand  - Chantodo's Will (1000-1050 dps with socket)
Offhand   - Chantodo's Force (120-460 dmg)
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23teeth

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Post Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:13 am

Re: 4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

Since i never played wiz before i used this thread for reference when i was buying my stuffs.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8197652590

and checking cm wizards armory in the wiz forums to see what they were using.

I was very impatient so you could probably get more for what i spent, and by no means are my items optimal (in mp10), but i think it gets the job done.

If i was buying my sets again, i would probably go for a bit more armor and all resist on some of the pieces, but since storm armor is out of the question due to the lag, energy armor helps me get to 5k armor and 50% crit so its wutevs.

White mobs are no problem at all, but Elites can be a huge pain if they are Arcane / Frozen / Nightmarish with electrified.
Last edited by 23teeth on Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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isboxjelifah

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Post Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:20 am

Re: 4x Wizards - Screen freeze/Lag, please give advice

23teeth wrote:Since i never played wiz before i used this thread for reference when i was buying my stuffs.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8197652590

and checking cm wizards armory in the wiz forums to see what they were using.

I was a very impatient so you could probably get more for what i spent, and by no means are my items optimal (in mp10), but i think it gets the job done.

If i was buying my sets again, i would probably go for a bit more armor and all resist on some of the pieces, but since storm armor is out of the question due to the lag, energy armor helps me get to 5k armor and 50% crit so its wutevs.

White mobs are no problem at all, but Elites can be a huge pain if they are Arcane / Frozen / Nightmarish with electrified.


Curious, since I'm at work and can't look up. How much did this all cost you?
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