Computer & FPS slowdown on region window loadup.

I used to use Isboxer to 5 man multibox WoW years ago. Although I was fairly good with the use of the program Ive forgotten most of what I learned! (I have long term memory issues)

Anyway I'm returning to use isboxer after years of not using and am having severe fps issues on startup. When initiating innerspace the region windows do pop up slowly but the pc grinds "almost" to a halt with each window at less than 1 FPS. It then takes the pc 20+ seconds to register any mouse click or anything else whether inside or outside the game windows. Basically the whole computer becomes so slow its unusable and it then takes me many minutes to close down all the windows so the PC returns to normal speeds (assuming it doesn't stop altogether).

The game is world of warcraft and is a fresh installation. The game functions fine without isboxer. For testing purposes I turned all in game graphic settings way way down including reducing window resolution to 1080. The isboxer is also a fresh install and was set up using the initial wizard.

With my pc spec I should not be having fps issues, at least on the hardware ability side of things so I think it must be something else...

Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
Intel core i7 3930K clocked at about 4120 Mhz watercooled( I have even tried removing the overclock and yes temps etc are ok)
SLI x 2 Nvidia GTX 780 Ti
16GB Ram
running on single monitor (have even tested on 3 different types as the one I started testing with was gSync and I thought that might be an issues. But no luck on any of them)

I set background fps to 10fps and front to 30 within isboxer. Still no luck.

I tried setting main window to "no slot" etc and fiddled with the various cpu core priority settings.

I have tried various x 5 windows region setups.


Here is the isboxer config from where I last left it after various adjustments (this is not the only config tested): http://www.privatepaste.com/9b249f5fce

I apologize if I have left out any vital info (let me know)

I really appreciate any help as Ive just re subscribed to innerspace and re activated x5 Wow account subscription and don't want the initial approx £60 to go to waste!!

I look forward to your kind help and any time you might spare me.

GR

[lax]

I think the main issue is you're looking through your ISBoxer configuration to solve this.

The solution is PROBABLY covered in this howto: http://isboxer.com/wiki/HOWTO:Tweak_your_framerate
You've already pretty much ruled out the ISBoxer configuration section. The issue is probably either in-game configuration, or other running software. Additionally, the "Identifying framerate bottlenecks" will show you how to check where the load is -- if it's hammering your CPU, your GPU(s), and of course whether SLI is working for you or not.

For further help get me a "Diagnostics for game crashes" from ISBoxer's Help menu (http://isboxer.com/wiki/Diagnostics) which would provide a list of programs running and affecting the game, and perhaps I can point something out for you to shut down.

I think the main issue is you're looking through your ISBoxer configuration to solve this.

The solution is PROBABLY covered in this howto: http://isboxer.com/wiki/HOWTO:Tweak_your_framerate
You've already pretty much ruled out the ISBoxer configuration section. The issue is probably either in-game configuration, or other running software. Additionally, the "Identifying framerate bottlenecks" will show you how to check where the load is -- if it's hammering your CPU, your GPU(s), and of course whether SLI is working for you or not.

For further help get me a "Diagnostics for game crashes" from ISBoxer's Help menu (http://isboxer.com/wiki/Diagnostics) which would provide a list of programs running and affecting the game, and perhaps I can point something out for you to shut down.

Thanks for your response Lax, much appreciated.

Please see diagnostic for programs: http://privatepaste.com/b9f0ee6665

I will investigate the other avenues you have provided although I think these may possibly be some of the links I have already browsed (except the load check which Ive yet to do). Anyway if that's the case a second look surely cant hurt. Ill update once done.

EDIT: forgot to mention, already tried with Avast disabled. No Joy.

Cheers
GR

[MiRai]

What immediately sticks out is that you're running Avast and Comodo. Comodo has been known to cause issues in the past, but beside that, the two programs could be fighting against each other. I'd probably uninstall Comodo, restart the machine, and see how that works out.

What immediately sticks out is that you're running Avast and Comodo. Comodo has been known to cause issues in the past, but beside that, the two programs could be fighting against each other. I'd probably uninstall Comodo, restart the machine, and see how that works out.

Was just editing my other response as you posted! I already tried with comodo and avast disabled earlier. When I ran diagnostics they were back on

Anyway no change with them off. Ill try and unistall.

[MiRai]

What immediately sticks out is that you're running Avast and Comodo. Comodo has been known to cause issues in the past, but beside that, the two programs could be fighting against each other. I'd probably uninstall Comodo, restart the machine, and see how that works out.

Was just editing my other response as you posted! I already tried with comodo and avast disabled earlier. When I ran diagnostics they were back on

Anyway no change with them off. Ill try and unistall.

You cannot fully disable "security" software since the program continues to run and load itself into processes. You need to completely uninstall it and restart your machine in order to "disable" it. If that doesn't fix anything, then another diagnostic showing that they've been uninstalled would be helpful.

I think the main issue is you're looking through your ISBoxer configuration to solve this.

The solution is PROBABLY covered in this howto: http://isboxer.com/wiki/HOWTO:Tweak_your_framerate
You've already pretty much ruled out the ISBoxer configuration section. The issue is probably either in-game configuration, or other running software. Additionally, the "Identifying framerate bottlenecks" will show you how to check where the load is -- if it's hammering your CPU, your GPU(s), and of course whether SLI is working for you or not.

For further help get me a "Diagnostics for game crashes" from ISBoxer's Help menu (http://isboxer.com/wiki/Diagnostics) which would provide a list of programs running and affecting the game, and perhaps I can point something out for you to shut down.

You cannot fully disable "security" software since the program continues to run and load itself into processes. You need to completely uninstall it and restart your machine in order to "disable" it. If that doesn't fix anything, then another diagnostic showing that they've been uninstalled would be helpful.

MiRai thanks for your reply. Yes I understand this. Uninstalling was the next thing I was going to do. It didn't help in this case. Here is a copy of programs as requested: http://privatepaste.com/ace42488f4

In regards to Lax other suggestions:

I couldn't find anything in the tweak your framerate link that helped improve things. I tried each thing in turn.

The result from some of the changes:

Game settings. I have reduced what I can and turned off additional settings (AA etc etc). No Joy. Any specific advise on in game settings that may be an issue anyone?

Using HWmonitor I have the following results during test:
CPU "max" 25% of potential
GPU "max" both at 99%
Could not see a readout option for RAM or anything related to it within HW monitor........?

Sooooooo, next I disabled SLI just in case. No improvement and single GPU running at Max capacity.

Personally I don't understand this. These cards are pretty powerful and should certainly not cause a bottleneck. I used to run 5 man WoW multibox with lesser cards at high in game settings just fine. Now I cant even get beyond the log screen due to the speed.

Any ideas where to go from here?

[lax]

GPU "max" both at 99%

So your bottleneck is somehow GPU related.

You changed game settings -- did you do this with the game open via ISBoxer or with it open normal? If you open it normal the setting changes will have no effect unless you open up the WTF folder and delete the Character-specific Config.WTF files created by ISBoxer. After doing so, the Character-specific files will be re-created with your latest non-ISBoxer Config.WTF settings.

If that doesn't help, then open the in-game ISBoxer Control Panel (Ctrl+Shift+Alt+G) and click the debug tab. Then click the "Capture State" button. This will Copy some information for you to Paste back here for us about things like the active game resolutions, windowing modes, FPS, etc,. and perhaps provide more clues.

GPU "max" both at 99%

So your bottleneck is somehow GPU related.

You changed game settings -- did you do this with the game open via ISBoxer or with it open normal? If you open it normal the setting changes will have no effect unless you open up the WTF folder and delete the Character-specific Config.WTF files created by ISBoxer. After doing so, the Character-specific files will be re-created with your latest non-ISBoxer Config.WTF settings.

If that doesn't help, then open the in-game ISBoxer Control Panel (Ctrl+Shift+Alt+G) and click the debug tab. Then click the "Capture State" button. This will Copy some information for you to Paste back here for us about things like the active game resolutions, windowing modes, FPS, etc,. and perhaps provide more clues.

Man I love ya! I think you have hit the nail squarely on the head here!

I couldn't change the settings when loading through a ISBOXER character set because it was running so slow. I believed changing settings in normal game mode carried over to ISBOXER. Boy was I wrong! It was still trying to load 5 windows at 2560 x 1440 resolution each with god knows what level of other graphic settings.

I followed your instruction and so now I can get onto the login screens with great FPS.

I think that's cracked it but ill log in later and test play to be sure.

One last question: Bearing in mind my limited knowledge of ISboxers inner workings, at what point did the ISBOXER character settings get created in the WTF folder? Now I have the settings where I want them will they remain there and not be adjusted next time I export ISBOXER settings to innerspace?

Thanks
GR

[lax]

One last question: Bearing in mind my limited knowledge of ISboxers inner workings, at what point did the ISBOXER character settings get created in the WTF folder? Now I have the settings where I want them will they remain there and not be adjusted next time I export ISBOXER settings to innerspace?

When you first Export to Inner Space and have a new Character Set, all of the Config.WTF files are created from your main Config.WTF file. They will not be adjusted at all after that unless you make changes while playing, or manually edit these files.

Later on if you start a new team and want to reuse the same settings you have now, you can just copy the Character-specific files you have now, to replace the new ones it will make from the main Config.WTF file