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nekoelschekrat

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Post Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:29 pm

IWT in a Macra (Maybe binded on the Razer Naga)

Hi,
im searchin for a Way to build for several Actions Macros including IWT.
Unfortunately im absolutly a Noob in this Things.
What ist the best Way to combine Actions with IWT?
Is it maybe a good Idea to bind it to the Naga?
And how?
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tanker

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Post Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:22 pm

Re: IWT in a Macra (Maybe binded on the Razer Naga)

You need to be more specific about your request. What action macro do you want to perform?

Be aware that any macros including a delay (send '1', wait 0.5 seconds, send '2') are a violation of the TOS for most (if not all) games and will get you banned for automated play even if you are at the keyboard. ISBoxer does not support this type of operation for exactly that reason.
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Post Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:51 pm

Re: IWT in a Macra (Maybe binded on the Razer Naga)

You can use a lot of devices with IS Boxer.
Pretty sure you could use a bunch of the buttons on a Naga as hotkeys for mapped keys.

Similarly, if a mapped key happens to send six keystrokes at once...
You won't get banned or suspended for that.
In Warcraft they have what is called a Global Cooldown; in other words, once a spell fires another cannot fire for a short time, no matter how you mash your keys.
A few spells are special, in that they're not on the GCD.

If you check the system used by most of the DK boxers, this being the most popular composition in WotLK & Cataclysm...
Each press of the spam hotkey, sends numerous keybinds to warcraft.
With an ability on each keybind or hotkey.
Mine was something like...
- Send hotkey for IWT.
- Send hotkey for Howling Blast
- Send hotkey for Holwing Blast
- Send hotkey for Frost Strike
- Send hotkey for Frost Strike
- Send hotkey for Necrotic Strike
- Send hotkey for Blood Strike
- Execute next step (Do Mapped Key Action) for Mind Freeze
---- This had each DK in turn, every 2.5 seconds doing a Mind Freeze, so one would be cast every 2.5 seconds (10 second refresh).

Everything happened at the time the hotkey was pushed.
Pushing a key and then waiting, would result in nothing beyond one of the abilities firing off at the time the key was pushed.
Note IWT and Mind Freeze are not on the GCD, so can fire off on every push without interfering with the other abilities.
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nekoelschekrat

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Post Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:44 pm

Re: IWT in a Macra (Maybe binded on the Razer Naga)

Ualaa wrote:You can use a lot of devices with IS Boxer.
Pretty sure you could use a bunch of the buttons on a Naga as hotkeys for mapped keys.

Similarly, if a mapped key happens to send six keystrokes at once...
You won't get banned or suspended for that.
In Warcraft they have what is called a Global Cooldown; in other words, once a spell fires another cannot fire for a short time, no matter how you mash your keys.
A few spells are special, in that they're not on the GCD.

If you check the system used by most of the DK boxers, this being the most popular composition in WotLK & Cataclysm...
Each press of the spam hotkey, sends numerous keybinds to warcraft.
With an ability on each keybind or hotkey.
Mine was something like...
- Send hotkey for IWT.
- Send hotkey for Howling Blast
- Send hotkey for Holwing Blast
- Send hotkey for Frost Strike
- Send hotkey for Frost Strike
- Send hotkey for Necrotic Strike
- Send hotkey for Blood Strike
- Execute next step (Do Mapped Key Action) for Mind Freeze
---- This had each DK in turn, every 2.5 seconds doing a Mind Freeze, so one would be cast every 2.5 seconds (10 second refresh).

Everything happened at the time the hotkey was pushed.
Pushing a key and then waiting, would result in nothing beyond one of the abilities firing off at the time the key was pushed.
Note IWT and Mind Freeze are not on the GCD, so can fire off on every push without interfering with the other abilities.


Hi, fighting with my very bad English this seems to be a good beginning for me.
Im just asking myself if it would be more effective to bind IWT on a seperate key oder putting in a Macro with an Action like
"/interact with target
/cast Bloodstrike" and this for every Action.

I want to provide to get out of Range,when an Opponent moves.

Actually i play 4 Ele-Schamies where this prob doesn´t exist but tomorrow my DKs should start there Career and for an absolute beginner like me,
ISBoxer has a lot of Challenges especially when playing Melees.

If there would be a (mostly) complete Setup of an DK i had a Base to learn from.
Does someone know where to find such a Setup?

And thx for your Help!
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tanker

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Post Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:54 am

Re: IWT in a Macra (Maybe binded on the Razer Naga)

It is most effective to bind IWT to key. Then you press the key, wait until your toon runs into range, then press your DPS key. If memory serves, pressing IWT before every DPS key can cause your toon to continue running past the mob which isn't very effective.
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Post Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:25 am

Re: IWT in a Macra (Maybe binded on the Razer Naga)

Here's MiRai's video for IWT: http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=45676



I personally use: http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost.php ... ostcount=3

Essentially I have an IWT mapped key.
And then my spammed DPS keys.
These spammed keys, call the IWT mapped key (Do Mapped Key), but only for my melee toons.
Caster type toons or healers do not receive this mapped key, so they don't run into melee ever.

I then have a toggle key.
Which can enable or disable the called IWT key.
When it is on, which is my default state, calling the mapped key has the melee IWT as part of my DPS spam.
And when I disable the mapped key, calling it does nothing so even though I spam the same key there is no IWT going on.

I have a separate IWT mapped key, with a hotkey.
This has everyone IWT, for use with flight masters or quest npc's.
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nekoelschekrat

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Post Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:32 am

Re: IWT in a Macra (Maybe binded on the Razer Naga)

Puuuh, hard to understand for me but i think i got it :D

THX!
I am starting a 4DK team, so i guess i don´t have to use the Toggle key,right?

After a short look into your (second) posted link i should find a Way to configure the IWT into the DPS.
Bus isn´t there an easier Way if the Group is made of just 1 Class?
I guess ISB offers here a Way for those Combos.
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Post Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:24 am

Re: IWT in a Macra (Maybe binded on the Razer Naga)

If you're playing 4x DK's, without a healer...

You'd probably want IWT on always, for PvP content.
Because you'd want to automatically swarm whatever your target is, and to move with them.

But to have the toggle ability for PvE content.
Press it initially to move to the target, and then only press it again if the target moves.

If you're playing a mixed team, ie. 4x DK + 1x Healer... then you only want IWT/Spam on the Melee toons.

I like the toggle, because you can build it into the DPS for all your teams.
And then disable it, via the toggle, whenever it is undesirable to have.
Not saying the toggle is essential, but I find it is nice to have.
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nekoelschekrat

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Post Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:02 pm

Re: IWT in a Macra (Maybe binded on the Razer Naga)

Ualaa wrote:If you're playing 4x DK's, without a healer...

You'd probably want IWT on always, for PvP content.
Because you'd want to automatically swarm whatever your target is, and to move with them.

But to have the toggle ability for PvE content.
Press it initially to move to the target, and then only press it again if the target moves.

If you're playing a mixed team, ie. 4x DK + 1x Healer... then you only want IWT/Spam on the Melee toons.

I like the toggle, because you can build it into the DPS for all your teams.
And then disable it, via the toggle, whenever it is undesirable to have.
Not saying the toggle is essential, but I find it is nice to have.


And again i have to say Thank You!
The Team will only play PVP, so i won´t use the Toggle Key.
I just leveled em to 63 and after Binding the IWT to the DPS Keys i´ll try my first BGs.
I guess i will ruin it for all :D

Actually i´m thinking which Spells to use.
With 4 DK there is surely a different playstyle from playing just one Char,isn´t it?
Its lot more pressure on the Opponent.

So to build a "light" Bar, i just wanna start with the most important and effective Spell to get a Feeling for the Combo.
In later Arena-matches i definately have to change something but there´s a long Way left.
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Post Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:29 pm

Re: IWT in a Macra (Maybe binded on the Razer Naga)

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=37658

Not a whole lot has changed since 4.1, for a DK boxer.
If you end up going Frost, my link has a lot for you.
If you want to go Unholy or Blood, it is an example of another spec that can be adapted for you.

For Frost, at this stage I'd go Mastery > Haste; they were very close to even in 4.1.
Also, Frost spec no longer needs to use Blood Strike, so take that out of the mapped keys.
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