FAQ  •  Register  •  Login

different resolutions on some machines

Moderator: MiRai

<<

morwic

Posts: 66

Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:50 pm

Post Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:49 pm

different resolutions on some machines

Edit: It seems I cannot lie to the sessions running on the laptop and tell them they should render at a larger resolution than the screen can handle.
That messes up the login screens, and then gets reset to the resolution of the active region anyway once I am in game. So I set all the laptop .INI files
windowed size back to 1580x870, the resolution of the active region, as they have been for a few years.

I also set the Repeater Profiles in the character sets running on the laptop to a new Scaled profile, which says scale relative to center of screen.

This way, the login screens look normal with properly centered elements. And the in-game fake cursor for broadcasting tracks well, once I am logged in.

But the fake cursor on the login screens is still off by a considerable amount. I cannot log in by clicking on UI elements.

At this point I am stuck. I do not know what else to try.



Original post:

I could not see where to get a link from pastebin after pasting my profile. So here is a link to the same data posted to my dropbox account:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3nhho31er2s5d ... e.xml?dl=0
I hope that works. Haven't really used this stuff yet.

My problem is that I got a new UHD display for my desktop machine. Not that this is a problem in itself... I love the higher resolution and bigger screen.

But now I have different window layouts on the desktop and the laptop, and I am having trouble getting it to work correctly.

Previously I had 1920x1080 screens on both, and it was simple. The same layout worked for both.
On those screens I use a 1580x870 active region in the upper left corner, with 8 small 300x170 home regions for my 8 accounts arranged along the edge and bottom of the active region. That is the layout called 8slot in the above configuration.

This worked well. No problems though the aspect ratios were not quite the same in the small regions and the active region.

I made a new layout, 8slot-big, for my new display. This has a 1920x1200 active region and home regions off to the side.

I want to use the old layout for the laptop, the new one for the desktop.

I read the documents, looked at the options, and watched the video about solving mouse repeater problems and managing different resolutions several times.

I changed all the everquest .INI files on the laptop to say 1920x1200 windowed size, since the video emphasized that all clients should be rendering at the same resolution. I don't know how else to change the resolution in EQ. I changed them on the desktop as well, and that seems to work ok.

But on the laptop it does not stick.

When I try to log in characters on both machines at once using broadcasting, the mouse is off. Or really the display is off... the login subscreen that is centered on my main display is shifted off toward the lower right of the window on my laptop, just as though I were viewing the upper left corner of a larger window. Which might be the case, if it is being rendered at 1920x1200 and displayed in the smaller active region without being shrunk to fit? The mouse is not where it belongs.

I can get them loaded by ignoring the mouse and using keystrokes only.

Once loaded, the game behaves normally and the mouse seems to track.

In game, if I look at video resolution, it is back to saying 1580x870, the size of the active region. And when I exit, those are the numbers stored in the .INI for for WindowedWdth and WindowedHeight, not the 1920x1200 i put there before loading.

Can anyone sort this out for me? I'm confused. Why did Mirai say to set the game resolutions at all, if active region resolution is going to over-ride what you set in-game?
<<

bob

User avatar

League of Extraordinary Multiboxers

Posts: 4653

Joined: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:14 am

Location: In the dining room, with the lead pipe.

Post Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:34 am

Re: different resolutions on some machines

The login screens may not be scaled correctly. I always found the login screens a bit funny with EQ and tended to always work on a fixed resolution rather than take any notice of the in game settings.

You would probably get some joy with the mouse, if the active/reset regions were the same aspect ratio. 1920x1200 = 1580x988 while keeping the same ratio. I use this site for ratios, because I am lazy. When the game windows are correctly responding to the layout, then the scaled to fit will work if you are using mismatching aspect ratios, but for some reason the EQ login screen just doesn't do this.
<<

morwic

Posts: 66

Joined: Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:50 pm

Post Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:26 pm

Re: different resolutions on some machines

bob wrote:The login screens may not be scaled correctly. I always found the login screens a bit funny with EQ and tended to always work on a fixed resolution rather than take any notice of the in game settings.

You would probably get some joy with the mouse, if the active/reset regions were the same aspect ratio. 1920x1200 = 1580x988 while keeping the same ratio. I use this site for ratios, because I am lazy. When the game windows are correctly responding to the layout, then the scaled to fit will work if you are using mismatching aspect ratios, but for some reason the EQ login screen just doesn't do this.

The ratios are not the same because I want a layout with visible home regions for all 8 accounts plus a main active region as large as I can get it.
With a screen height of 1080 and the windows menu bar taking up space at the bottom, 1580x988 would not leave enough room for useful home regions under the active region. I suppose I could cut it back to 1392x870 to keep the ratios the same.

But I'm not sure that would help with the login screens anyway... the scaled cursor is behaving nicely in the in-game windows as it is. It is only the login screens that are off, which unfortunately is where I need it the most.

What I seem to be missing is an understanding of how to control the login screen rendering. Whatever it is doing gives the wrong results for scaled or unscaled cursor mapping, by different amounts and directions for each choice but all choices wrong.

Now that I've had some sleep I'll look at it some more. Sometimes I see things better after sleep.
<<

bob

User avatar

League of Extraordinary Multiboxers

Posts: 4653

Joined: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:14 am

Location: In the dining room, with the lead pipe.

Post Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:31 pm

Re: different resolutions on some machines

I was trying to say, ineffectually, was, when I was testing EQ, the login screen of EQ was a PITA, and really did not like it when forced into a non-standard resolution. The game itself was generally ok with it.

I was trying to use 2560x1200, and could not get the cursor to position correctly. After a bit of fiddling, it appeared to me that the login screen is trying to force itself to a 800x600 size, and even though you may be displaying it in a differently sized region, the cursor positioning would still behave as though it was 800x600. I may have been missing something. In the end I worked out, if the region size was the full screen it was OK. If I ran outside of ISBoxer, it was ok. Anything else and the mouse was out of position, but only during the login/server select screen.

I assume some people just don't see this issue, or perhaps I was doing something wrong.

Hopefully you can figure it out.
<<

Prepared

Posts: 160

Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:34 pm

Post Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:36 pm

Re: different resolutions on some machines

I had this issue with one of my clients on one of my machines. It was the login screen that I wasn't able to click on the Accept for the license. The way I fixed it was:

Go to eqclient-(loginname)-EQ.ini file in the Everquest folder (this should be the name that matches your character's virtual file in ISBoxer) and find these two entries:

WindowedWidth=1920
WindowedHeight=1080

Change them to the size of the windows that are in ISBoxer for that screen.

For me, I changed to:
WindowedWidth=960
WindowedHeight=540

and it fixed the login so the size matched the window.

Prepared - mass multiboxer of mmos
<<

firescue17

User avatar

League of Extraordinary Multiboxers

Posts: 585

Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:37 am

Location: Omaha, NE

Post Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:41 pm

Re: different resolutions on some machines

Same issue to varying degrees. I also had various issues with the focus on full screen stacked layouts getting jacked and un-clickable even if the buttons were in the correct place. I resorted to the habit of tabbing to select fields and using "Enter" to login. That never failed.

Return to EverQuest

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest