System and Compressed Memory

[jabberie]

Anyone come across this problem with Windows 10?
Sometimes it will go away after a few minutes.
Other times it just stays going until I turn off the 3 games.
WoW is unplayable during it. It will pulse every 3 secs and lock up wow for a second.



I have tried to find ways of turning it off but nothing works. Some say it's a bug with Windows 10 from November.
What it's doing is a "feature" of windows 10 but it's meant to operate inplace of pagefiles.
At 32 gb, I shouldn't really be needing to near this.

I had created a fresh profile was I was having fps issues on the 2 slave clients.
http://pastebin.com/MWMZ5atY



Any help appreciated.

Hi,

I had same issues. Some say you can fix it by doing some driver updating and what not. But what i did that helped me was managing page file swapping manually. So instead of letting windows handle it, i set my swapping size to 400-5000 , 2000 was alittle to small for me and game crashed complaining i didnt have enough ram. Im using 16gb. Now i have barely any issues with compressed memory.

[jabberie]

Seems I had deactivated my page file completely. I think it was more that I removed the drive that I had set it up to.
I have set up a new pagefile now but not had a chance to run it long enough to check.
thanks for the info and hopefully it will do the trick.

[jabberie]

Hasn't helped. :/
Trying to use Microsoft's Answer Desk but it's giving me a tumor.
I was asked to set up my Virtual Memory to inital = my ram total and max = double my ram.
Spent 10 mins then "discussing" if they actually thought that setting up my VM as 32gb/64gb was the best thing to do.
They fought me over what I was asking them saying it was MB no GB. I had to spell it out that I had 32gb of ram...
At that point the person started to realise how bad what they were telling me to do was.
I'm about to restart the PC after they said to disable the Superfetch. fingers crossed
They gave me a copy/paste and just ended teh chat.

[bob]

So there are some interesting posts on the Compressed Memory feature. I doubt that is causing your problem. The System and Compressed Memory is just a rename of the System process from earlier versions of Windows, and it was done, because when Windows compresses pages instead of writing them out to the page file, then the get stored in the System process, and people were wondering why it's ram usage was large at times.

Anyway, the System process includes all the Windows Kernel items, so when your network interface receives data, the System process deals with it, determines which user process should get it, and passes it on; so the CPU time it is using might be justified. You can monitor with the Windows Performance Toolkit to find out what the System process is actually doing.

Anyway, some interesting threads:
Details of Windows 10 Memory Compression
How to disable Windows 10 compressed memory
Thread with several people experiencing high CPU usage on System and Compressed Memory process <- reading through this indicates that it can also be caused by the ACPI.sys driver, a NVidia driver, having a MicroSD card sitting in a slot, and probably some other things too. Mainly it points out you should be using the WPA to find the cause.


Also, don't believe anyone who says you need a specific sized paging file (especially the rule of thumb 1.5x memory). The only way you find out what paging file size you need is by monitoring the machine and it's page file usage during a "normal" load. The issue with a home PC is it doesn't really have a normal load profile. You will only every get general recommendations for a home PC. That said, my page file is set to 6GB. 2GB on the OS drive, 4GB on the other drive. This is because Windows always requires a page file, if only to store the modified list. At a minimum you should allow 1GB for this minimum. I put it on the OS drive so I don't remove that drive . The other 4GB is a Just In Case because I cant be bothered monitoring. However with 32GB of RAM, I've never got to the point where Windows needs to actively page anything out. The maximum I've ever has used is around 28GB, so there has still be 4GB free, and that was only because I was doing something stupid. Normally I'm lucky to get over 19GB used.

Mark Russinovich (who I'd believe over the standard MS phone support) had some info on the paging file in this blog post. IIRC there was a heap more detail in the Winternals Books or maybe the System Administrator reference.