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Darlok

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Post Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:30 pm

How to Make melee slaves move to & attack target w/o repeatr

Hi guys.. I have a question.. I just got ISboxer like 4 hours ago and am learning it.... I have an issue.. I have 2 arms warriors i am trying to synch up. The slave warrior follows me when i have broadcasting turned off.. That's great.. I like that.. But whenever I try to attack the same target and make the slave stick with the moving target.. I can't seem to do that without turning the broadcast on.. and then it's hard to stick to the target because movement is a little different while the broadcast is turned on. Is there anyway to have the slave warrior attack the same target as the main warrior is attacking without having to swap the broadcast on/off every time the enemy target moves?

Please let me know.. I'm new to all this still so it's a newbie question.. TY
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Post Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:38 pm

Re: How to Make melee slaves move to & attack target w/o repeatr

It depends on the game.
With WOW, there is a Face Target mapped key, which you can add a Hotkey for, which may help.
With others, it can sometimes just be a case of reissuing the Assist Me function, then perform an attack, and when out of range, the toon will move by themselves. There may be an in game movement assistance, which you might need to turn on.
You may need to position yourself better to begin with. i.e. With follow, your toons tend to run slightly behind, so with your main, you run just past your target, turn and attack. In the meantime the slaves stop right on the target.

If you get knockbacks and such like, it comes back to Assist, in game movement assistance, or maybe you need to run around, regroup and fight again, although sometimes this might not work if Follow does not work in combat for your game.
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Darlok

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Post Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:08 pm

Re: How to Make melee slaves move to & attack target w/o repeatr

Thnx man... I kinda figured it out already.. Just have a question that if I want the alt/slave to follow my main.. I need to keep toggling the Broadcasting and the Key maps buttons?
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Darlok

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Post Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:12 pm

Re: How to Make melee slaves move to & attack target w/o repeatr

Cuz when i Have keymaps turned on & broadcast turned off I follow myself correctly.. But when I have Keymaps turned on and broadcast turned on.. and want to move.. I'm all over the place.> usually move in different directions.. How do i go about following myself all the time without having to toggle between the 2? I want to be able to follow myself with the follow bind key in a straight pattern.. without having to toggle broadcasts on/off. Is there a way to do that?
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Post Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:08 am

Re: How to Make melee slaves move to & attack target w/o repeatr

You shouldn't be toggling the broadcast as much. For the most part in a MMO you should really be using it at all, except when interacting with NPC's and quest acceptance, and possibly game config settings. Most other UI's will be slightly different in usage due to character class/skills/ or even just the loot organisation that you need to control it individually.

Keymaps trump broadcast anyway, so as long as Keymaps are enabled, then the Follow hotkey will work. The problem is, when you then broadcast movement, it breaks follow, and your toons not longer follow, but instead move in the direction they were facing. When you wasn't to move your toons, your hit the follow hotkey, and then you ONLY move your main (i.e. no broadcast), and your toons will Follow you, as the name of the action implies.

In a 3d free-look game, it is near impossible to have all your toons facing the exact same direction with the exact same camera view, with the exact same perspective etc (a few more exact things), which simply means, broadcasting movement means your toons move in different directions. This is outlined in the FAQ (and numerous links around these forums). FAQ: Why do my toons move in different directions.

As this goes on to say in the links.
For example, to move together you could simply broadcast your movement keys. However, you will soon find that your characters drift apart rather quickly, and it is tedious to keep adjusting the exact direction each character is moving in order to keep them together. That is why many games provide an Auto-Follow feature, and it's just as useful to a multiboxer as it is to a solo player! If the game you are playing provides this feature, ISBoxer can help you use it effectively, and we'll get to that in a minute.


If you find you are turning on broadcast because you need your toons to perform actions together during combat or other scenarios, then you need to use the Mapped Key Wizard (in the wizards menu), and create some more Mapped Keys (these go in the Key Maps, which are just containers) to perform those actions you are needing.
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Post Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:29 am

Re: How to Make melee slaves move to & attack target w/o repeatr

Oh hey man.. I'm not sure i'm understanding you right... The issue I have is basically with the follow key.. WoW has a Follow FTL key.. It was already mapped except i changed the Bind key to it. I want my 2nd alt/slave to follow me without having to constantly toggle broadcast on/off. If I have broadcast turned off and hit Follow Lead he follows okay.. But when I want to engage mobs I need to turn the broadcast on so it can duplicate the keystrokes... And then i need to quickly swap to broadcast off and hit the FTL hotkey button again.. It's kinda getting annoying.... Whenever i have Broadcast Turned ON and i want my follower/alt to follow me.. He goes off in a completely different direction? Like he doesn't follow me.. He's all over the place.. It is only when i have broadcast turned OFF that he follows me nicely.. But I need to keep swapping broadcast OFF and then Follow Key.. so the alt/slave follows me directly.. And Broadcast ON when i engage a mob so i can map the keys.. and then toggle broadcast OFF and hit follow etc.... It's frustrating.... Not sure why when i have Broadcast turned on and hit folllow leader, the ALT is alll over the place... He just doesn't follow me correctly unless I turn broadcast off and hit FTL.. Is there a way to fix that? I haven't played around with formations? Does formation have something to do with it? I'm using WOW standard keysetup
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Post Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:03 am

Re: How to Make melee slaves move to & attack target w/o repeatr

Darlok wrote:But when I want to engage mobs I need to turn the broadcast on so it can duplicate the keystrokes...
No you don't. If the default 1 to = (I.e. the number row on your keyboard) straight key broadcast mapped keys that are setup by default are not enough for your combat needs, make more Straight Key Broadcast mapped keys using the Mapped Key Wizard (actually the number row should be setup by default as Assist + Straight Key Broadcast, which is another option in the Mapped Key Wizard).

Darlok wrote:Whenever i have Broadcast Turned ON and i want my follower/alt to follow me.. He goes off in a completely different direction?
Two reasons for this.
  1. You toons are NOT standing in the exact same place, facing the exact same way, with the exact same perspective. They are near each other, but not exact. Thus when you broadcast the movement, they each go in the direction they are facing. Think of it a different way. You and you mate are standing back to back. Very near, but not exact. Now each take a step forward. You both move away from the other. This is what your toons are doing, but without the completely different face.
  2. Movement BREAKS follow. I.e. when you broadcast movement, each of your toons are getting the same independent movement command, so the game says, "Hey, you want to move individually, then I no longer need (or can) follow that other guy you just told me to follow."

And then you repeat the same stuff. a few more times.
I understood what you meant. It has been tried lots, and games like WOW, you don't use broadcast much. For combat scenarios, set up more mapped keys to get your toons to fight together. Broadcast in WOW is a last resort, so avoid using it.

MiRai explains a bunch of this stuff in this video series.
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Post Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:13 am

Re: How to Make melee slaves move to & attack target w/o repeatr

OH Okay.. That link was a good link.. It seems I need to set up my mapped keys... And avoid the broadcasts.. And I need alot more keys than the defaults man :0 But yeah.. this will work.. Thnx :0 Going to figure it out.. and manually edit the keys and avoid broadcasting movements

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