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kayman001

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Post Mon May 12, 2014 9:30 pm

Backspace in game binding

Hello,

Regarding the Backspace key, I am wondering if it is acceptable to bind it in game to some type of action (for instance to have it bound to assist). Also, would it be okay to have it included in a hotkey (as in Alt+Backspace) for others to assist.

The reason I am unsure is that I have noticed that Backsapce, in IsBoxer Quick setup 41, is used within a macro for FTL assist. Also, trying to bind it within an IsBoxer controlled WoW game environment, with Key maps off, led to a warning that “CLICK FTLAssist:LeftButton” would be unbound. This however is not the case when I am playing an instance of WOW without ISBoxer.

In another vein, I am wondering if there are certain keys that should not be touched in order to avoid affecting IsBoxer addon and its macros, other than the “1to =”, Backspace or for instance F11.

Thank you very much
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Post Mon May 12, 2014 9:42 pm

Re: Backspace in game binding

kayman001 wrote:Hello,

Regarding the Backspace key, I am wondering if it is acceptable to bind it in game to some type of action (for instance to have it bound to assist). Also, would it be okay to have it included in a hotkey (as in Alt+Backspace) for others to assist.

The reason I am unsure is that I have noticed that Backsapce, in IsBoxer Quick setup 41, is used within a macro for FTL assist. Also, trying to bind it within an IsBoxer controlled WoW game environment, with Key maps off, led to a warning that “CLICK FTLAssist:LeftButton” would be unbound. This however is not the case when I am playing an instance of WOW without ISBoxer.

Backspace is already bound to assist, which is why you're seeing the error that you're seeing when you bind it to something else. As per the Quick Startup Guide (and the corresponding videos), you should be using Alt+A for assisting (which is the default Hotkey and you could have also changed it during or after the Wizard).

If assist isn't working as it should (as per the Wizard's setup), then you've likely got other conflicting key bindings assigned somewhere else in game.

kayman001 wrote:In another vein, I am wondering if there are certain keys that should not be touched in order to avoid affecting IsBoxer addon and its macros, other than the “1to =”, Backspace or for instance F11.

Thank you very much

If you look at the WoW section under Game Helpers, you can see all of the bindings that the ISBoxer add-on uses for its macros.
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kayman001

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Post Tue May 13, 2014 12:26 pm

Re: Backspace in game binding

First of all, thanks for the prompt response.

Backspace is already bound to assist,


Du you mean it is bound in game or through the IsBoxer addon.

Otherwise,

Assist seems to work pretty fine in game. It is just that I am trying to understand how this works.
The fact is that assist works while my backspace key does not seem to be bound to assisting (in my in game bindings). When I push it in game manually to assist another one of my characters (acquire their target) nothing seems to happen. When I check my in game key bindings, backspace is not assigned to assist.
I wanted to manually assign it (backspace) to assist, but I do not want to screw my setup so I am not daring to do so. The thing that I am trying to understand is if IsBoxer is somehow binding my backspace to assist in a behind the scenes kind of way. The game helper you advised me to look into clearly shows that the backspace is key combination sent in game in order to assist.
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Post Tue May 13, 2014 1:20 pm

Re: Backspace in game binding

kayman001 wrote:
Backspace is already bound to assist,

Du you mean it is bound in game or through the IsBoxer addon.

When the ISBoxer add-on is enabled, there is no difference.

kayman001 wrote:Assist seems to work pretty fine in game. It is just that I am trying to understand how this works.
The fact is that assist works while my backspace key does not seem to be bound to assisting (in my in game bindings). When I push it in game manually to assist another one of my characters (acquire their target) nothing seems to happen.

This is because ISBoxer uses an FTL setup which relies on modifier keys. Backspace by itself does nothing, which allows you to still use it as an actual Backspace key, and Backspace + modifier keys handle assisting.

kayman001 wrote:When I check my in game key bindings, backspace is not assigned to assist.

ISBoxer's macro bindings are not currently listed in the game's key bindings menu, but you can view them under the Game Helper section as I've already mentioned.

kayman001 wrote:I wanted to manually assign it (backspace) to assist, but I do not want to screw my setup so I am not daring to do so. The thing that I am trying to understand is if IsBoxer is somehow binding my backspace to assist in a behind the scenes kind of way. The game helper you advised me to look into clearly shows that the backspace is key combination sent in game in order to assist.

Are you that determined to use Backspace as the actual Hotkey to assist? Backspace is normally only pressed when someone's right hand is on the keyboard... Do you play with both hands on the keyboard and none on the mouse? If so, that's fine, but if not, then using Backspace as the actual Hotkey you want to press in order to assist seems odd. Why not assign the Hotkey to something like a mouse button which is much, much easier to press compared to the Backspace button?

Of course you can always change the add-on's binding to something else, but every single guide and Wiki entry that deals with troubleshooting assumes that the default binding for assist is set to Backspace under the ISBoxer Game Helper section. It's never recommended that you change this binding because, well... Why would you want to press Backspace every time you needed to assist? Surely there are more convenient keys for you to press.
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Post Tue May 13, 2014 1:48 pm

Re: Backspace in game binding

Thanks again MiRai ,

I will heed your friendly advice and leave my backspace alone :oops:

under IsB 38 my hotkey for assisting was alt+Backspace, I am sure that I can live with it as alt+A under the much improved IsB41.

Is there a place where I can read the full actual macro text for assisting?

also, how does the game recognise a Key combination entered in a macro, the examples that come to mind are F11 with modifiers for follow, or my "beloved" backspace with modifiers for assisting.

Can you recommend some reading In regards to macros and the way they are used by IsBoxer. I am sorry for the trouble; it is just that I like to understand the mechanics of things, although my knowledge in the field is quite modest.

Thanks again, I am very grateful for your input.
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Post Tue May 13, 2014 2:46 pm

Re: Backspace in game binding

kayman001 wrote:Is there a place where I can read the full actual macro text for assisting?

Click on the preview tab and choose a Character Set from the drop-down.

kayman001 wrote:also, how does the game recognise a Key combination entered in a macro, the examples that come to mind are F11 with modifiers for follow, or my "beloved" backspace with modifiers for assisting.

I don't understand.

kayman001 wrote:Can you recommend some reading In regards to macros and the way they are used by IsBoxer. I am sorry for the trouble; it is just that I like to understand the mechanics of things, although my knowledge in the field is quite modest.

The video I've linked above shows how to go about using the WoW Macro Library for in-game macros, otherwise the Wiki is full of information:

http://isboxer.com/wiki/WoW:Macro
http://isboxer.com/wiki/World_of_Warcraft_Macro_Library
http://isboxer.com/wiki/Named_World_of_ ... cro_Action
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Post Tue May 13, 2014 10:36 pm

Re: Backspace in game binding

To recapitulate:

Since backspace is the key combination used by the macro /assist {ftl}, I assume that I should not bind this key to anything else to avoid affecting the aforementioned macro. This also should apply to the F11 which is the key combination used by the macro /follow {ftl}, as well as the ] key, which is the key combination used by the macro /targetexact {ftl},
Again, the three keys that I SHOULD NOT bind to anything else in game are Backspace, F11 and ].

The question you did not understand previously was related to the fact that these keys are transparently assigned in game through the IsBoxer addon. The answer was hinted at through your video that you kindly posted in your last comment. Thanks for your time and for all the interesting links you have posted.

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