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cookcpu

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Post Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:45 pm

Re: For those who are 4 boxing

Ellay wrote:I guess I'm trying to understand it a bit more, do you notice an improvement in playability with this change as opposed to 1 on main screen and 3 small ones on the other screen?


I can't give any opinion on this comparison as I have not use the setting of main screen and 3 small ones.

I started from dual boxing with 2 screen stack and then jump to quad boxing with the above set up. I find that there are mouse syn problem with quad boxing as one of the mouse pointer on the video fx will be at the opposite end of the other 3 mouse pointers.

All I can say is I have better view of items drop and manage to not miss out any drop items. :D
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yeaimjason

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Post Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:44 am

Re: For those who are 4 boxing

Ellay wrote:I guess I'm trying to understand it a bit more, do you notice an improvement in playability with this change as opposed to 1 on main screen and 3 small ones on the other screen?


I used to 4 box with 3 in my side monitor and felt it was a pain in the ass looking for loot; just having a second monitor on is using your video card's resources with or without a game on, I notice a temperature drop on my old one card setup as well as slight FPS increase using one monitor (in regular games not Multi boxing). So if you are having performance issues I would recommend running one monitor. I have an SLI setup and a 6 core i-7 and notice no difference in what I do :P.
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cookcpu

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Post Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:57 pm

Re: For those who are 4 boxing

After the new patch, I find that one of the mouse always unsyn every now and then. That is the mouse pointer will go different direction to the other 3 mouse pointers.

It happen when I am fighting a big mob too.

PS. After more than 2 hours of play, the whole game fps drop to 1 to 2 fps. I have to stop the game and reboot my computer. I have 12 GB of rams and using Nvidia GTX680 2GB. Anyone have this problem.
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farmouss

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Post Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:40 am

Re: For those who are 4 boxing

cookcpu wrote:PS. After more than 2 hours of play, the whole game fps drop to 1 to 2 fps. I have to stop the game and reboot my computer. I have 12 GB of rams and using Nvidia GTX680 2GB. Anyone have this problem.


Hi,

I'm not a multibox pro, just begun to use it but I can definitely tell you that this is a GPU driver recovery issue.
It means that your card or driver failed and had to recover from an error, you usually see a blackscreen before a GPU driver recovery occurs.

I have a water cooled i7@5Ghz (Sandy Bridge) with 24 Gig of Ram and a Water cooled GTX580@900/2100 and no problems exept some drivers recovery when I push the card up to 950
Multiboxing is very intensive with the GPU, the heat can go at very high levels especially if you are trying to put your frame rate to 60 on each windows.

I'm running 4 games full HD at 60hz each and I think I'll go back to 60/30 because I don't really see any difference in sync...

Hope it helps
cheers


EDIT : btw, I'm very interested in finding a way to effectively loot on each windows... it's very hard if not impossible to monitor 4 Windows especially the smaller ones (even on a 24inch screen).
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Mahther

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Post Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:04 am

Re: For those who are 4 boxing

farmouss wrote:EDIT : btw, I'm very interested in finding a way to effectively loot on each windows... it's very hard if not impossible to monitor 4 Windows especially the smaller ones (even on a 24inch screen).


I have a video showing how to make a keybind to send clicks to the individual screens here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvngRXLXx5g
This works well for me because I have a naga epic. The 1-2-4-5 buttons are in a square, so I set the 1 button to send a click to my top left corner, 2 for top right, etc.

Also, lax posted about his window layout earlier in this thread which is another great way.
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farmouss

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Post Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:58 am

Re: For those who are 4 boxing

Thanks again for your answer.
So my new question is : is it recommended to use a smaller resolution on secondary instances or not?
Does anyone have a guide to set up the layout exactly like in "more crappy loots" because it's not described in details and is Lax using smaller resolutions in this layout? what is his framerate configuration?

Thanks again.
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Post Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:28 am

Re: For those who are 4 boxing

farmouss wrote:Thanks again for your answer.
So my new question is : is it recommended to use a smaller resolution on secondary instances or not?
Does anyone have a guide to set up the layout exactly like in "more crappy loots" because it's not described in details and is Lax using smaller resolutions in this layout? what is his framerate configuration?

Thanks again.


I linked earlier in this thread to http://isboxer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=11529#p11529, and I'll quote it this time as well.. emphasis added.
I have a recommendation for your Window Layout though that might provide you with a better solution, since you're 4 boxing Diablo 3 on 2 monitors.

Instead of having 1 big window on the main screen and 3 small windows on the second monitor, I use my second monitor for one big dxNothing window, and I put a (fully interactive) view of each window using Video FX in each of the 4 quadrants.

This way, my main screen broadcasts to all 4, but I can also just mouse over to the second monitor to interact with any individual window through the Video FX, without changing the view on the main screen. So as far as looting goes I tap Alt in my main window so I can see all the blues and yellows and whatnot on my second screen, then I can just quickly move the mouse and click on them all as if they were one window (because at that point they are one window :) ). Additionally I can still use the main screen for any window the same way you use it, and I can make use of all the Video FX I want in all their full resolution glory (on my witch doctors that's pet health and mana balls next to the party health). My "Get more crappy loot" video will give you a little peek at that, though I'll probably put up more videos about this particular Diablo 3 setup soon. (All the setup info to do this should be in the dxNothing and Video FX links.)


1. So first of all, you need to add a dxNothing Character to ISBoxer. If you haven't added a dxNothing Character to ISBoxer, click the dxNothing link in my quote, and do that now (add it to Inner Space first, then add the Character). If you skip the part about checking the "Video FX Viewers stay when in background (blocks Video FX Sources!)" box, then you'll have the problem someone described earlier in this thread where the Video FX viewers don't stay when in the background. So don't skip that part.

2. Then you add a Slot to your Character Set for dxNothing. If you haven't done this part yet, click the dxNothing link in my quote, and do that now.

3. After adding the Slot, and putting dxNothing in the Slot, your Window Layout will need to be updated. Run the Window Layout Wizard and select Full Screen Stacked, with the windows all stacked on your main screen. Click Finish.

4. After using the Window Layout Wizard, you will need to move the dxNothing window onto your second monitor. To do so, select your Window Layout in the top left pane in ISBoxer, then in the bottom left pane select Regions, and in the bottom right pane Region 5 or 6 or whatever the last Slot is (dxNothing) should be on top of the rest, simply drag it onto the second monitor and resize it if necessary.

5. Export to Inner Space.

This completes the portion of this config in the ISBoxer toolkit; the Video FX are easier set up in the game.

The Video FX configuration is pretty simple, especially once you've done it at least once before. Launch your team and select the dxNothing window, and press Ctrl+Shift+Alt+G in that window to bring up the in-game ISBoxer Control Panel (in the dxNothing window; I am purposefully being redundant to be sure that is understood!), and use the editor to set up Video FX Viewers for is1, is2, is3, and is4. (For those not playing Diablo 3, that might also include is5, is6, etc) If you need help doing this part, there are 2 videos by MiRai on the Video FX page demonstrating how to make them.

To configure these particular viewers, you can specify exact positions by filling in the x position, y position, width and height. For 4 to fill in quadrants, each one gets a width=halfwidth and height=halfheight (here halfwidth is half your monitor's width, and halfheight is half your monitor's height, in pixels; fill in the numbers yourself, don't literally type "halfwidth" into the box). is1 goes at 0,0. is2 goes at halfwidth,0. is3 goes at 0,halfheight. is4 goes at halfwidth,halfheight. As you would probably expect. So in other words if your screen is 1600x900, then each Video FX Viewer gets to be 800x450 in size, is1 goes at 0,0, is2 goes at 800,0, is3 goes at 0,450, is4 goes at 800,450.

Also be sure to use the Video FX Editor (where you have the ISBoxer Control Panel up, and click on a Video FX Viewer to edit one that is already created) to enable repeater pass-thru for mouse and keyboard for each of them, and optionally enable the Focus Hotkey. That's to be able to, for example, Alt+Mouse1 (by default; configurable in your Character Set) on one of the Video FX and have the main screen bring that window up.

Voila!

Regarding performance, I use an i7 2600k @ 3.4GHz, 16GB ram and a GTX 560ti, Windows 7 64-bit. I use ISBoxer's default round-robin + hyperthreaded balancing with 60/30 fps except the dxNothing window is 30/30.

Attached is my Diablo 3 ISBoxer profile complete with some goodies like Z remapped to send Shift to "all other" (main window moves, others shoot) and X temporarily enables repeater to everyone but the main window (main window does nothing, others move/shoot/etc). The profile does not include things configured in-game (the Video FX), and you'd have to change the Window Layout to match your system if you want to try to use it. But the point is you can have a look at how mine is configured ;)
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farmouss

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Post Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:50 am

Re: For those who are 4 boxing

This is Huge, thanks very much for this Lax.
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Mahther

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Post Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:55 pm

Re: For those who are 4 boxing

Thanks for the detailed guide lax. I bought another monitor just for this.
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cookcpu

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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:09 am

Re: For those who are 4 boxing

farmouss wrote:
cookcpu wrote:PS. After more than 2 hours of play, the whole game fps drop to 1 to 2 fps. I have to stop the game and reboot my computer. I have 12 GB of rams and using Nvidia GTX680 2GB. Anyone have this problem.


Hi,

I'm not a multibox pro, just begun to use it but I can definitely tell you that this is a GPU driver recovery issue.
It means that your card or driver failed and had to recover from an error, you usually see a blackscreen before a GPU driver recovery occurs.

I have a water cooled i7@5Ghz (Sandy Bridge) with 24 Gig of Ram and a Water cooled GTX580@900/2100 and no problems exept some drivers recovery when I push the card up to 950
Multiboxing is very intensive with the GPU, the heat can go at very high levels especially if you are trying to put your frame rate to 60 on each windows.

I'm running 4 games full HD at 60hz each and I think I'll go back to 60/30 because I don't really see any difference in sync...

Hope it helps
cheers


EDIT : btw, I'm very interested in finding a way to effectively loot on each windows... it's very hard if not impossible to monitor 4 Windows especially the smaller ones (even on a 24inch screen).


I have check my graphic card driver it is the latest 64bit driver from Nvidia. I set my fps to 30/30. Now I reset it back to 60/30 since it make no different in getting lag out after 2 hours of play.
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