Mouse Clicks Not Lining Up

I just went through the setup wizard for 4 accounts, and I noticed that my mouse clicks don't line up well with the interface windows in LOTRO. I seem to recall this problem when I first used ISBoxer for LOTRO many years ago, but I can't remember what the fix was.

I will note that ISBoxer detected that my old .ini files were set for 1600x1200 resolution (instead of the 1680x1050 that I'm using now) and prompted me to fix them (which I agreed to), so I don't know if that's related to the problem.

Here is my setup if it helps (although, like I said, I just used the wizard, I didn't really customize it past that yet). (I guess the board limit of characters prevents just copy/pasting it into the post with how large the profiles are now a days).

Also, I have 3 displays connected to my machine, but the Window Layout Wizard in ISBoxer only wants to use 2 of them. Is this a limitation in the software, or is it something that I have setup wrong on my system that is preventing the ISBoxer Toolkit from detecting the 3rd display?

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I just went through the setup wizard for 4 accounts, and I noticed that my mouse clicks don't line up well with the interface windows in LOTRO. I seem to recall this problem when I first used ISBoxer for LOTRO many years ago, but I can't remember what the fix was.

I will note that ISBoxer detected that my old .ini files were set for 1600x1200 resolution (instead of the 1680x1050 that I'm using now) and prompted me to fix them (which I agreed to), so I don't know if that's related to the problem.

I would probably go into the in-game video options and make sure that the windowed mode, resolution and DirectX API version settings are the same in all windows. If you use fullscreen mode in all windows, they should all be correctly forced to 1680x1050; in DirectX 11 with Fullscreen mode, that should be the only option they have.

Also, I have 3 displays connected to my machine, but the Window Layout Wizard in ISBoxer only wants to use 2 of them. Is this a limitation in the software, or is it something that I have setup wrong on my system that is preventing the ISBoxer Toolkit from detecting the 3rd display?

Neither. I see that ISBoxer has detected the 3rd display, by looking at your layouts. However, It's only using two of them because by default the Window Layout Wizard (or Window Layout page of the Quick Setup Wizard, same deal) only generates layouts for 1 or 2 monitors (or if you have the same number of Characters as monitors, it will also generate 1 full screen per monitor).

To get the wizard to use more monitors, adjust the "Swap Groups" option under the "Multiple monitors" heading. You can choose how many instances go on each display, and then the wizard will use that information when generating multi-monitor layouts.

Or you can always manually adjust the Window Layout afterward by selecting it in the top left pane under Window Layouts, and then selecting "Regions" in the bottom left pane.

If your 3 displays are plugged into different video cards, be aware of the limitations of moving 3D-accelerated windows from a monitor powered by one card, to a monitor powered by the other (a massive performance hit). -- http://isboxer.com/wiki/GPU_Management

Great, thanks, I'll try that.

I was also reminded that my crossfire setup may not be the best for my multi-boxing wants. Unfortunately, I don't think that I can come up with a layout that I like where I have 1 monitor on 1 GPU and 2 monitors on the 2nd, without cross-GPU swapping. Is it worse, in your opinion/experience, to run Crossfire or to have a cross-GPU swap? What about if I stayed to just 2 monitors? Is it worse or better to crossfire or drive those 2 monitors from a single GPU (with the second GPU driving the third, unused (i.e., used just for having a webpage active), monitor)?

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Is it worse, in your opinion/experience, to run Crossfire or to have a cross-GPU swap?

It's definitely worse to cross-GPU swap. With Crossfire, the worst case is that it just doesn't use both GPUs to run the 3D; with cross-GPU swapping, you have a guarantee of a massive performance hit. You can use Open Hardware Monitor (see HOWTO: Tweak your framerate, Identifying framerate bottlenecks) to see if the second GPU is just idling or if it's actually helping out.

What about if I stayed to just 2 monitors? Is it worse or better to crossfire or drive those 2 monitors from a single GPU (with the second GPU driving the third, unused (i.e., used just for having a webpage active), monitor)?

I can't say for sure, I would use Open Hardware Monitor to see if Crossfire is helping. If not, then it might be better to stick to 2 from a single GPU and use the second GPU + 3rd monitor for misc stuff.

Also note that you CAN put a dxNothing window on the 3rd monitor, and use Video FX views of/from any of the game windows without running into that performance penalty.

When I switched to full screen mode, everything in the interface lines up properly. Great!

Next time I made a change to the window layout in ISBoxer Toolkit, it detected this and told me that the game would run better in windowed mode, and prompts me to let it "fix" this. Bad?!

I used the Open Hardware Monitor, and see that It is indeed not using the second GPU at all. Boo!

So, I tried setting up your dxNothing window on the 3rd monitor with the Video FX viewer. I think that I'd used this before when I was multi-boxing DAOC, but can't remember much of it. I tried to setup a test video feed from 1 character to the Video FX viewer. I got a green box prompting me "Seeing green? 1. Be on Windows Vista or later 2. Have Aero enabled 3. Hold CTRL if the Control Panel is open!"

1) Check
2) Check
3) Check, doesn't help

I bet this is because LOTRO forces me out of Aero whenever it executes (even inside of Inner Space). Any way that you have any control over this to prevent it, or a way of enabling Video FX without Aero (even in an alternate / not as efficient option)?

Thanks for the help!

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Next time I made a change to the window layout in ISBoxer Toolkit, it detected this and told me that the game would run better in windowed mode, and prompts me to let it "fix" this. Bad?!

I'll have to get that updated, this was a pretty recent fix

I bet this is because LOTRO forces me out of Aero whenever it executes (even inside of Inner Space). Any way that you have any control over this to prevent it, or a way of enabling Video FX without Aero (even in an alternate / not as efficient option)?

1. Open up Documents/The Lord of the Rings Online in Windows Explorer
2. Open userpreferences.ini (you will need to do this with each of the per-Character ones ISBoxer made by copying the main one, or delete the per-character ones and just edit the main one so they re-copy) with notepad or another text editor
3. Change AllowDesktopCompositing from False to True

Awesome, again. This worked beautifully.