EVE Isboxer Issues

Per our discussion.

I currently have a setup using a dxnothing window with lots of video feeds into it. This works relatively well, and I spent a bit of time configuring it with lax on irc.

Privatepaste of my isboxer toolkit thingy:
http://privatepaste.com/0eb112e10d

However, the biggest frustration for me is that occasionally, it will randomly break.

In one of the windows, the one I use for chatting, I have both mouse and keyboard pass-thru enabled. When typing, sometimes it'll work, but more often, it will start to lag hella hard when I type faster (usually as I approach ~100 wpm, haven't manually tested it exactly, but I type faster than that when I get going, so when I type at average, speed it prob doesn't break 80-90 or so wpm) and the chat icons on my eve interface will start to flash or turn off entirely.



Those ones right there.

Additionally, oftentimes after having clicked to another window(or videoFX to be technical to this setup specifically), things will be broken as fuck when I try to go back to the window.

I'll often end up with the window itself becoming increidbly unresponsive - I can't double click to minimize/maximize windows on the screen, and typing does nothing. I used to end up with random shit popping up all over my screen, which led me to angrily disable literally every single eve shortcut except the ones I explicitly use to try and solve the problem. This stops random shit from popping up, but didn't solve any of the other issues.

What typically resolves it is me (very angrily) hitting all of my ctrl keys, shift keys, and alt keys (separately, not at the same time ofc) and then re-trying to do what I was previously. This usually fixes it, if not, I repeat and then it works again.

In another, possibly unrelated issue, I also am forced to double click windows in order to do something when swithcing between clients.

For example, I can have Eve running on Monitor 2, and I'm doing stuff. When I go to click on something in ANOTHER Eve instance running on monitor 1 (or ANYTHING AT ALL) I cannot simply click on what I want to do. I have to click once, to get the window "focus," and then click a SECOND time to actually get the window to do what I want it to do. Funnily enough, the window seems to recognize things, because I can be hovering over something and it will highlight (for example in the fleet window, a highlight mouseover will appear), but I cannot directly left or right click - I have to click first to get focus, THEN click it again.

These issues are not specific to this setup - I've had the same issues with litereally every setup I've ever made in isboxer, except for the most basic swapping setups (which do have the second double click window number error).

This frustrates me to no end, as I cannot be pvping and have isboxer shit the bed for a seeminly random reason - despite having ~20 accounts, I have been unable to use more than 5-6 in pvp at one time due to being forced to use swapping setups that require a huge amount of focus and attention, rather than taking advantage of how powerful isboxer should be with videofx windows etc etc etc.

Will post more as coonvo continues or for more info/explanations.

-Lords

[bob]

In another, possibly unrelated issue, I also am forced to double click windows in order to do something when swithcing between clients.

For example, I can have Eve running on Monitor 2, and I'm doing stuff. When I go to click on something in ANOTHER Eve instance running on monitor 1 (or ANYTHING AT ALL) I cannot simply click on what I want to do. I have to click once, to get the window "focus," and then click a SECOND time to actually get the window to do what I want it to do. Funnily enough, the window seems to recognize things, because I can be hovering over something and it will highlight (for example in the fleet window, a highlight mouseover will appear), but I cannot directly left or right click - I have to click first to get focus, THEN click it again.

This particular issue maybe game specific. For example, if you load up two Eve games outside of Innerspace, and then move the mouse between them, and click over an item while that game window doesn't have focus, does it work or does it require the first click to focus the game?

If it does then maybe it is not an Innerspace issue as you do have the setting for "When clicking to focus a window, the game should " and you have "do what is normally does" on all window layouts.

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You could try changing this to "treat it like any other click" and see if that improves it?


If your problem is stemming from the initial click being on a VFX Viewer, then that is a different kettle of fish, and maybe you will need to try something a bit different to get the focus to change automatically to the viewer before then the next click is passed through.

Window Issue

This particular issue maybe game specific. For example, if you load up two Eve games outside of Innerspace, and then move the mouse between them, and click over an item while that game window doesn't have focus, does it work or does it require the first click to focus the game?

If it does then maybe it is not an Innerspace issue as you do have the setting for "When clicking to focus a window, the game should " and you have "do what is normally does" on all window layouts.

It is isboxer specific. I have literally told guys "hold on, I need to close isboxer and relog chars manually." Part of what drives me nuts...I shouldn't be having to log out of isboxer in order to get improved performance when 2-5 boxing characters.

I can have 2 characters fullscreen, one on each monitor, and I can freely move back and forth between the two and click hella fast (For example when I'm fcing from dualboxed triage + dread combo) which works just fine...except in isboxer.

I have to alt tab(or click) focus to a window to hit a hotkey ofc.

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You could try changing this to "treat it like any other click" and see if that improves it?


If your problem is stemming from the initial click being on a VFX Viewer, then that is a different kettle of fish, and maybe you will need to try something a bit different to get the focus to change automatically to the viewer before then the next click is passed through.

I'll take a look at this. The window double blick problem specifically doesn't have any bearing whatsoever on VFX viewers, but I do have the same issue when using them. It seems to always happen.

After further discussion with lax, it seems a good 99% of my problems/complaints have been sorted by a combination of the above option (holy shit so awesome, this now makes isboxer BETTER as I can just mouseover something and hit hotkeys instead of the previous click then hotkey afforded non isboxed things -only advantage was the go over and click, which now functions as well) and the following:

Ensure EVERY one of your accounts is set under graphics options to "Fullscreen" mode - NOT windowed mode.

These will both look exactly the same to you from a frontend view, but the windows themselves do something, and combined with the black magic that is vidfx viewers, can cause immense frustration, rage, and random shit happening.

Literally been <5m and haven't done any extensive testing yet, but this has so far improved everything by a p. large degree.

tl;dr - Answer is :CCP: and :VidFxBlackMagic: --> set all windows to fullscreen mode under gfx options, regardless of what it looks like from your end.