Healing click bars for EQ

Hi, can someone tell me how to create healing click bars for EQ? Where you right click a party member and it targets them and heals them in one click? I need it to NOT depend on group formation order. I 2 box and I like to group with other people. I have a VFX window for my druids group window on my mages screen. I would like to overlay click bars on it and have the bars just heal their corresponding slot no matter what character is in that slot.

Any help would be appreciated. I have spent hours trying to get this to work. All the click bar tutorials seem to be aimed at WoW on the click bar forum. I imagine EQ is a little different.

[bob]

Actually the guides I wrote in the Clickbar forum were aimed at non WOW games, mainly because I was using LOTRO to test, and WOW has other options. They do work with EQ.
The issue is that you want it to work regardless of group make up, which some game wont support because they do not have the ability to target a specific character.

For EQ, you do have the ability though. Instead of using Variable Keystrokes for the Target character options, you should use mapped keys that issue slash commands. Lengthy detail on the concept is here.
These targeting mapped keys will be a spelling out of /TAR CHARNAME. It will only really work if your character name is 9 characters or less (because as explained here your total limit is 15 characters), although if you only 2 box, you might be able to get away with keystrings (they get hairy with 6 characters trying to access the clipboard at the same time - in your case you would only have 1).

Essentially you want a mapped key which is setup like this..


If you have character names longer than 9 characters, you could try the Keystring Action, but I'm not sure it will work. The CTRL+V may need a pause between it and the ENTER, and there isn't a way to do that with the clickbar healing setup.


In both cases these would need to be setup as per the guide(s), and be set to Execute a Step when Pressed.. e.g.

If you don't do this, then when you mouseover the clickbar, the target command wont issue.

Worth noting: I set the Target to self in the above shots (or Window:Current if you like). This does mean a slight deviation from the guide in that you need to set the On Mouseover Target of the clickbar, to the character or Action Target Group that you want to receive the /TAR CHARNAME command. I suggest doing it this way because it makes the target mapped keys a little more portable between configs (and if you get into heavily virtualised configs then you wont have to change the mapped keys).


p.s. I might have got my slashes around the wrong way. I was just making some examples....

Thank you very much for the reply. In eq you can target yourself no matter the group order with F1. Other party members will always be F2-F5. Instead of a string macro can I just have it send F1-F5 then send the heal hotkey?

The only problem I see is if say F2 is a pet class if you tap F2 twice it targets their pet. So if i have to heal the same pet class character twice the 2nd press would target and heal the pet? Think I would have to add some target switch after the heal began to get around that issue.

[bob]

So in the guides HOWTO: Click Bar Healing and HOWTO: Advanced Click Bar Healing (Grid/Clique emulation), I used a method of Variable Keystrokes which would press the appropriate F1- F6 key depending on the group position. But this only applies to characters in your Character set.

If you want you can create mapped keys which specifically send the F1 - F6 keys instead, if you want to use them to target specific party slots regardless of whether those slots are filled by your character set or not. I believe if you send ESC first, and then the Fx key, it might help prevent the pet selection, but I am not 100% on that.

There are no rules on your ISBoxer configuration. Configuring for PUG play is a little different to an isolated group.

Sorry I am at work cannot look up exact term. But if I do not want to create an "action target group" thing. What do I select for that step when making my click bar? I think that step is where I had issues last night. If I have to create that group so I can eventually use other healers so be it. But I think skipping the step and selecting the wrong thing in the drop down was probably the reason my last attempt didn't work. I made a simple black bar that should have healed F1, but it did nothing.

[bob]

You don't have to create an Action Target Group. That was about making it portable.
You can just set the Slot or even the specific Character you want to receive the commands instead of the ATG.

Ok so I set everything up following your basic tutorial. I stopped at the section where you make a way to hide the bars. I figured that is where I can test if they work. I made my target key send a F1 keystroke to my druids window. So no variable keystroke. I did not add the text {SLOT 1} do to the bar because I am not using variable keystrokes for targeting. I did not use a ATG, and replaced those drop downs with my druid character. I assigned the click bar to my team.

When I click the bar in game on my mage or druids screen its does absolutely nothing as far as I can tell. F1 is not being sent to my druids window, neither is number 7 key for casting the heal.

I'm missing something. Did I stop to soon in the tutorial for testing?

[bob]

This is the point where you need to share what you've done.

More than likely, you have missed something. The basic guide, is a little lengthy really, but it does take you through every step, and the times that it has not worked for people is because they have missed a step, e.g. Not assigning the Key Map to your team.
You are right, you should be able to test it at the point you have stopped if you have assigned the bar to your team.

Having tried to use the /tar XXX name via ISBoxer I found it unreliable. The time to perform the target action and the cast didn't always work with the target being selected. I found sending F keys to be a LOT quicker and a lot more reliable.

Try it. Type F1, then Press F2 and notice how quickly you change targets. Now press F1 and type /tar xxxxx. You'll notice the difference. I believe this is because /tar is server side where F keys are client side.

I opted for a duel method although a little confusing.

1. Create a standard click bar with icons; F1, F2, F3.. I click these the cleric will be sent the key F3 as an example, and then cast heal with nested Do Mapped Keys. On Ctrl+Click she casts a quick heal.
2. FX Layer. On top of the above click bar I overlay the clerics group window. At this point you may need to adjust the buttons to fit under the group/players.

So by clicking in the FX Layer although it looks like I'm clicking on the cleric's group screen I'm actually clicking the "F and heal" click bar.


Advantages.
Handy if you pickup randoms in the group as I do. I'll drop boxes for actual people looking to join the camp.
No server side lag.
Can be configured to send double F key for pet healing. (Shft+Click)

Disadvantages.
Takes up more real estate on your screen.

[firescue17]

Having tried to use the /tar XXX name via ISBoxer I found it unreliable. The time to perform the target action and the cast didn't always work with the target being selected. I found sending F keys to be a LOT quicker and a lot more reliable.

Add a pause to the beginning of your heal /social.

On keypress down: Do /xtarget # or /target <name>
On keypress up: Do <heal /social>

Then make the social:

Line1: /pause 5, /stand
Line2: /pause 5, /cast #
Line3: /cast #

The /stand and pause give just a brief moment to compensate for AE FD and for the target switch to finish processing. Then the dual cast will account for fizzles.