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Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

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RHJason

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Post Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:11 am

Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

Very straightforward question here, to those well versed in multiboxing.

Im currently using 2, with a 3rd and 4th waiting for a new processor, but using two toons with fairly good efficiency multiboxing, I still feel like my loot drops have gone DOWN from running solo.

For the record, I have a 415k DPS fully buffed SUSTAINABLE ( Zerk thrive on chaos, overpower - killing spree, Battle rage ) barbarian that facerolls MP7.

I have traded that in for him using a weapon throw belt, and a newly levelled barbarian with ~150 million in gear, for two boxes to faceroll MP0 at the same speed.

Yet I feel like my drops have actually dropped off a bit, and it makes me hesitant to invest in 2 more accounts.


Anyone out there that had a GG main character running high MPs at high efficiency, but now gets better drops running 4 chars at low MP?
Really would love some feedback from players, especially those with lots of hours invested overall.
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Mahther

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Post Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:47 am

Re: Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

I have 4 accounts with paragon 40 monks that average out to 120k dps each and I average 4 legendary per act 3 clear on mp2. I've never soloed so I can't say for sure, but I can't imagine anyone getting 4 legendary per run at the same speed as I, or 1 legendary per run at a rate 4 times faster than I, with only one or two characters.
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RHJason

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Post Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:39 am

Re: Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

Are we talking about full clears? Id say you probably arent....

Generally speaking, Mahther, I was able to clear Core, Tower 1 first level, arreat crater 2, fields of rakkis, Keep 3, and keep 2 on my solo barb at MP7 in about 15-18 minutes. Averaged about 3 legends a run, with a range from 0-8 per run.

Quite honestly since so many legends are trash im hoping that by quadboxing I can double or triple that rate once my newbies are up to paragon 50-60+, running MP3 same route, MP4-5 once i have them geared up properly over time. ( I have switched to MP3 from MP0 since posting that earlier, and have noticed a difference in legendary drop rate. Still feeling a little sub par though )

Not stroking E-peen here, really hope to get some in depths responses.


4 Legends per run is pretty good, assuming a alkaizer route or similiar.
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marshboxer

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:14 am

Re: Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

If you have 3 more barbs and play it exactly the same as your solo barb, and just broadcast and keep them together, the answer is obviously close to 4x the speed and loot.

Don't bother with weapon throw its damage does not scale to MP no matter how good your gear is.

Basically on higher MP with more players you can either spin-to-win all 4 barbs, or look into things like the following skills to take things down:

DH - Cluster Bombs
WD - Bears
Wizard - Bit out of luck there not enough multi-hit abilities so stick to lower MPs.
Barb - HoTA / rend with Slaughter
Monk - See Wiz


Another way you can do it is....get your 2 other chars, LOAD up ALL 3 with 300 MFand chillax in town.

For example:

You can chillax in town while scouting for elites but big packs with main barb, and banner.

You can bring class buffs and even free up some passives/actives on your main barb for even more dps:
Eg: Warcry, Threatening, etc covered by the MF barb
BBV mass conf covered by the MF WD
Conviction covered by MF monk


The MF chars just need to be tank enough so they dont die when you banner them in to get xp and loots.

Only issue Ican foresee is if you do too much damage to the regular mobs with RLTW to let ur alts get xp.

Otherwise 1 barb vs 1 barb + 3x300 MF doing the exact same run is a no brainer.



EDIT: Please don't abuse and tell too many people :P
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RHJason

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:58 am

Re: Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

Do you really feel like 4x spin is actually feasible?

I find myself having to sync up my 2 chars at least a couple times a level, and even though non zerk spin seems like a decent idea, I could see myself having one barb stuck against a wall spinning until he runs out of fury, and another spinning off around a corner somewhere.

Right now im stacking defensive/shouts etc on a button which is working out pretty well, free mitigation for all my chars. Im burning through MP3 pretty quickly, elites in 5-10 seconds or so with the two chars, faster since im using zerk - insanity for crowd control heavy elites to try to keep sync going.

My end plan was to get 4 barbs geared enough ( 150k+ dps range ) along with my main carrying at 300k dps, and run MP5 with wep throw ricochet.
For AoE situations since my main is geared for whirlwind build with a high tickpoint on tornados, Ive running them with Sprint - Run like the wind, and literally just do a circle or run past mobs then swap to weapon throw. Usually the tornados burn half their hp off, then a quick one shot per mob with wep throw to finish, or to kill kiters.


Honestly the more I play it the more I think the biggest payoff comes when all your chars are paragon 50+ for MF, running 4.
Im still finding a decent # of legends on MP3, but most are on my high MF main. Once I have both chars finding similiar numbers, even with two chars, I think itll tip the scale back over where I was.
Playing it more has kinda answered my own question I think, lol.
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RHJason

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:55 am

Re: Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

K, messing around with a non zerk whirlwind build with 2 chars, and I have to admit, this is hilariously fun.
Sync is definately a issue, some of my problem is from my processor peaking by WWing with 2 boxes however.

Im not sure I see it possible with 4 chars, unless you somehow manage to make fury not even a issue, but like this its cracking me up.

Actually shaved a few minutes off my run with it as well.
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marshboxer

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:02 am

Re: Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

In case you didn't get my suggestion earlier.

Boosting MF to max on your alts negates the need to traverse through runs as fast as you can.

Of course leveling everyone really high paragon and allowing them to dps is great...but you are missing out while getting there.
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scotty562

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:44 pm

Re: Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

4x throw barbs are the most efficient I've found and I'm not the only one. One of the more popular multiboxers http://www.twitch.tv/eightkilo has found over 600 legendaries this patch alone.
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marshboxer

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:30 pm

Re: Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

The guy does have a 92 69 68 68 though, which not everyone has heh.
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RHJason

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:58 pm

Re: Do you feel more efficient with 4 boxes?

Yeah that stream was one that inspired me a bit, and the paragon levels will come with time.

Right now im trying

Frenzy - Maniac
Weapon Throw - Ricochet

Sprint - Run like the Wind
Rend - Lacerate
3 button - Variable defensive shouts / War Cry
Battle Rage - Into the Fray

Using

Ruthless
Weapons Master
Unforgiving


Its working pretty well with the addition of rend for kiting elites and large groups.
Gone from 12 minute MP7 Alk runs to 20-25 minute MP3 Alk runs however. Im thinking I really wont go any slower with 4 boxes, and that should put me rockin it.
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