TDR/Framerate issues since RoS

[MiRai]

Everything was going great for 5 hours this morning.
BAM
Screen turned black and computer just kept running. after ten minute i eventually just turned off the PSU.
No overheat problems at all. The GPU was actually using Less power with my newly upgraded PSU and is running even cooler!
I'm about to just quit

Unfortunately, I don't really know what else to look at at this point and this is usually something that only someone at the computer can figure out; although I do have some ideas...

1) When you reinstalled Windows, did you reinstall a bunch of other programs and what not before testing out D3? Or did you immediately install the motherboard/GPU drivers, Inner Space, ISBoxer, and D3, and then start testing? Because, if it is a software issue, it could have been anything you installed during this time.

This should also be a fairly "bare bone" setup and if you've got any extra expansion cards or sound cards, then leave that stuff uninstalled (completely unplugged from the motherboard) while you're testing. A minimal amount of RAM, the CPU, the GPU (plugged into the closest PCIe slot to the CPU), an OS drive plugged into the Intel SATA controller (not any third party controller), and possibly an optical drive (also plugged into the Intel SATA controller) if you don't have the necessary drivers on a USB stick.

Then, when installing motherboard drivers, don't use the auto-install feature on the disc -- Look through the contents of the disc manually to install only the necessary drivers, or, if the contents of the disc are cryptic and it's difficult to figure out what each folder actually does, then download the latest drivers from asus.com for your particular motherboard now, and put them on a USB stick so that they're labeled and more easily identifiable.

Preferably install them in this order:

1) Intel Chipset (will likely require a reboot)
2) Intel Management Engine (might require a reboot)
3) NIC (preferably Intel)
4) GPU driver -- Only the base driver and only PhysX (Do not install the HD Audio or 3D Surround or any of that crap) (I'd also suggest the latest 337.50 beta) (will require a reboot)
5) Intel AHCI/RAID driver (MAYBE -- If it wants to install Intel Rapid Storage with it then don't install it for now)

This is generally all you would need in order to start testing out D3. Always make sure to reboot every time the system wants to reboot, and leave out any third party stuff like Marvell, ASMedia, RealTek, or the Asus overclocking software crap -- And no Windows updates (disable it to make sure things aren't being installed in the background).

If at this point it doesn't crash (I'd suggest playing like this for days to fully test it) then it's any software that gets installed after this point. If the system is still crashing at this point then it's one of the drivers that was installed or it's a hardware issue.

2) I kinda wish you hadn't purchased the exact same motherboard as you were using before, because if one of the motherboard drivers is causing the issue, you'd be stuck in the same place you were with the old board.

3) You can also try downloading the program BlueScreenView to see what the crash is possibly being caused by, but sometimes this is inaccurate.

I went to RUN: DXDIAG because some people said running diablo 3 on DX9 solved there issue.
I Noticed that i was running DIrectX 11 32 bit!!! .. I changed it to 64bit.
Could that have been the problem?

Also, how would have diablo 3 run in directx9? And would that cause me to have to change my nvidia drivers?

Thanks again for the help..

Diablo III only runs in DX9 and you likely have many different versions of DirectX installed on your machine -- This is normal. DXDIAG shows DX11 because it's what Windows 7 uses and it's also the most recent version of DirectX that your GPU is capable of.

Well i did everything you suggested.

I got a TDR.. Im so tired of this

What if i right click diablo3>properties>compatability>Windows XP ??

Or would my TDR's just turn into BSOD?

[MiRai]

Well i did everything you suggested.

I got a TDR.. Im so tired of this

I'm sorry, but other than what I listed in my above post, I don't have much else. Is this only happening when multiboxing?

You could try going into the nVidia Control Panel (right-click on desktop > NVIDIA Control Panel) and setting the two options that I've highlighted to what is shown. (http://i7.minus.com/iukpKrEwTPidu.png)

You could also try hooking a monitor up to the GPU via a DVI cable rather than HDMI, or if your TV has a DVI input (some do). Maybe something with the HDMI hookup is causing issues.

Last, but not least, some people seem to have had luck reverting to driver version 314.22 which isn't directly compatible with the GeForce 7xx series GPUs, but can be modified to "work." If you want to attempt this then I can show you how to make this happen.

What if i right click diablo3>properties>compatability>Windows XP ??

It's unlikely that Inner Space will launch a game when using a compatibility mode.

ok i did the control panel advise, thank you.
Will advise from here..

I havent tried diablo 3 without innerspace yet. the TDR's are so seldom. I'd have to play for hours just to test.
LaX still reading this thread? Would like to know if innerspae can be used in compatability mode.

EDIT:
I set diablo 3 to windows xp (SP3) and innerspace seems to be running it. Unless somehow it overwrote my selection and does what it wants (which would not surprise me)

Thanks a ton.
Today is my birthday

EDIT2: (11:50am)
TDR

I guess i'll need to revert back to those drivers, could you be so kind to help me with that process?
OR
Should I go get a AMD HD7970? (Even though I read it also has some issues) I guess nothing is flawless..

EDIT3:(1pm)
Another TDR

I went to Internet Explorer>Tools>Internet Options>Advanced> and a put a check mark next to "Use sftare rendering instead of GPU rendering".. Apparently even when IE is closed it tends to affect other programs. There is a combinsation between IE common files like VGX.dll and NVidia module nvdxgiwrap.dll ..
I'll give it a shot and report back..

[MiRai]

I guess i'll need to revert back to those drivers, could you be so kind to help me with that process?

Here's the link to 314.22 modified to work on a GTX 780 or GTX 780 Ti -- I've verified that they will work with my 780 Ti, so they should work with a 780 as well.

There are uninstall/install instructions below that I'd suggest you follow to make sure that the current driver is fully cleaned out before installing this older driver, and when installing 314.22 you will probably get a warning message asking if you want to continue installing the driver -- This is normal with modified drivers because they're no longer WHQL certified.

I've never personally used drivers that were released before a certain generation of GPU, but I know that people have before. If the GPU refuses to accept the drivers, then it's likely that you'll see bluescreens or weird artifacting, but drivers don't "break" video cards.

Suggested Uninstall/Install Process:

1) Download this -- Install it -- Do not run it yet
2) Uninstall NVIDIA PhysX from the Program & Features Control Panel (if installed)
3) Uninstall NVIDIA Graphics Driver from the Program & Features Control Panel (DO NOT RESTART)
4) Delete the NVIDIA folder in your C:\ (may or may not exist)
5) Reboot into Safe Mode
6) Run Driver Sweeper
7) Search for NVIDIA - Display and NVIDIA - PhysX only
8) Analyse > Clean > Reboot into normal Windows
9) Run setup.exe located in the 314.22 folder (after extracting it somewhere)

Should I go get a AMD HD7970? (Even though I read it also has some issues) I guess nothing is flawless..

At this point, it's up to you on how bad you'd like to continue troubleshooting this. It does seem that more people with nVidia cards are having an issue, but I don't think AMD cards are infallible in a situation like this. If you've got the time, money, and patience, then anything is worth a shot. /shrug

Thank for your help I did the following two things
1.)
I went to Internet Explorer>Tools>Internet Options>Advanced> and a put a check mark next to "Use sftare rendering instead of GPU rendering".. Apparently even when IE is closed it tends to affect other programs. There is a combinsation between IE common files like VGX.dll and NVidia module nvdxgiwrap.dll ..
I'll give it a shot and report back..

2.)
Took out the HD and put in the DVI. Interesting that my resolution looks more "Real" with the PC in. When i used he HDMI i had to manually adjust my resoltuion

Before i uninstal my drivers and re-install the ones your suggested. I'll see if the two things i did work.

Thanks Again!

EDIT1:
so far so good, 4 hours straight. will advise

EDIT2:
so far so good, some minor pauses, sorta like a lag spike in game happens but only on one of my Tiled Boxes, while the other 3 will be active one is frozen.
BUT NO TDR!!! been like 12 hours.
WIll Advise still

[MiRai]

Keep us posted.

Keep us posted.

played all day, NO TDR/BSOD!
Im certain the internet explorer fix and the HDMI to DVI switch fixed it.

now i am just dealing with one tile out of four tiles getting locked up while the others are active. Then it goes back to being active. That might be normal though.. im not sure.

[MiRai]

played all day, NO TDR/BSOD!
Im certain the internet explorer fix and the HDMI to DVI switch fixed it.

Let's hope that it's all fixed.

now i am just dealing with one tile out of four tiles getting locked up while the others are active. Then it goes back to being active. That might be normal though.. im not sure.

It almost sounds like the TDR is about to happen, but then doesn't, and that's why you see the small freeze. From what I understand, if you had a TDR problem and then set the registry values of the TDR to a very high value, then you would see similar behavior; but I'm not really familiar with all of this TDR stuff. /shrug

I didn't mess with the regedit. restored it back to defaults after new driver were installed. im just happy there is no TDR.