Will not follow in bgs in 5.2

Yes this is so SAD.

I just started multiboxing, buying ISBoxer and WoW up to MoP for all my new accounts and then BOOM, follow removed in BG's

A huge pile of money down the drain.

I very sadly cancelled all my new accounts today.

If they only could have still allowed follow on chars in the party or account *sigh*

I have cancelled all 40 of my accounts as well. I'm just playing out my time on them right now as there is still subscription time remaining. So it looks like Sam Deathwalker will be the most characters multiboxed in WoW after I stop.

I have started Star Wars the Old Republic with 4 Sith Inquisitors using the Variable Keystrokes at http://isboxer.com/wiki/Common_modifica ... y_Bindings. The follow in SWTOR doesn't have the slaves camera adjust behind the character, but it works.

My names in SWTOR are Prepared, Preparer, Prepares and Preparez on the PvP west server.

Closed my accounts as well. Banned from the forums for starting "boxer" threads. Emailed Mike Morhaime and Jeff Carlo.

Hello. My name is ----------------. I am a huge fan of World of Warcraft. I have played the game since its inception, which is almost eight (8) years ago. Over the years, I have spent money maintaining five (5) accounts, purchased expansion collector editions for each of the five (5) accounts, multiple blizzcon online tickets so each character can have specialty pet, blizzard store mounts at twenty-five dollars ($25.00) a piece, blizzard store pets for ten dollars ($10.00) a piece, and the list goes on. I have invested a lot of time and money into this game. When I first started playing the game I was part of a guild and had the time available to invest into a guild. At one point, I was even a guild leader. Over the course of the last few years, I have gotten married and have a son. I now have other obligations to attend to as a part of my daily life. The amount of free time I had to devote to the World of Warcraft has reduced but I still wanted to play the game. Because I don't have the time to set up or attend regular raids or schedule an arena team that you have to endure when part of a guild, I decided to start multiboxing. This has enabled me to continue to subscribe to World of Warcraft with my limited free time.

Recently, there was patch 5.2 which removed the slash follow in battlegrounds. This is a game breaking change for me. I certainly understand that tweeks and changes are needed and I have suffered my class being "nerfed" but I never complained. I could work through that and still enjoy the game. Not so much with the removal of slash follow in battlegrounds. I can't work through that. If I am in a battleground with my five (5) characters without slash follow, I can't move four (4) of my characters and they basically can't fight. That is unfair nor polite to the team that I am working with in the battleground and a clear advantage to the other side. World of Warcraft has sent an arrow into the Achilles heel of multiboxers. Without slash follow, there can be no multiboxers. I understand from reading forums and emails regarding patch 5.2 that the main reason for the removal of slash follow was to eliminate basic bots from the game. Do I like bots? Certainly not and I understand World of Warcraft taking measures to prevent them from being used in the game. However, the multiboxers have been collateral damage in the elimination of bots by the removal of slash follow. Another collateral damage in the removal of slash follow is my ability to enjoy and play the game as a multiboxer. This should not happen.

I know multiboxers are a minority among the players of World of Warcraft, but they are some of your most devoted fans of the game. Plus, the additional money spent on the additional accounts and subscriptions shows the amount of loyalty that each multiboxer provides to World of Warcraft. Please understand the time and money that goes into multiboxing. I have read the terms of service and called World of Warcraft to ensure that I was not violating anything by the use of multiboxing. There is no prohibition against multiboxing. Patch 5.2 creates a prohibition against multiboxing that I do not believe to be intentional by World of Warcraft. I can not believe that World of Warcraft would want to alienate their loyal customers. I can not believe that World of Warcraft would prohibit me from enjoying its game.

I write to plea for the return of slash follow to battlegrounds. While just the return of slash follow is my ultimate goal, I also want to provide a solution to the issue of bots. If the main reason to removal slash follow was to combat basic bots, I certainly understand that such basic bots can slash follow another player. However, if slash follow would only be able to work in battlegrounds for people bound to the same battlenet account or perhaps the same Guild, this would eliminate the issue with basic bots. A basic bot could not use slash follow to follow my characters because the basic bot is not bound to my battlenet account or be in my guild. This is a great solution to eliminate basic bots and to allow multiboxers to continue to play the game.

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(aka. Mossberg)

Sad this is my first post here.. but I'm trying to do my part to help our cause.

Team Mossberg/Kil'jaeden

They should certainly give the opportunity to /follow the characters you queue with. This would prevent bots from using follow, but multiboxers to use it.

Simple.

[1pissedofftrucker]

this is the end for me as well... 10 accounts ... bye blizzard

Head over to RIFT and get your copies off Amazon for $19/account

Pay someone that'll support us PVP'n boxers Trion supports us in what we do.

I just finished the RAF phase of leveling 9 sets of 5 characters to level 80. I was looking forward to a lot of PvP and PvE multiboxing. Having only half the game available now is not enough and all 5 accounts have been canceled.

The WoW dev response has been pretty insulting to people who spend large amounts of money on their title. Ghostcrawler's tweets about this are dismissive and seem to paint multiboxers as the sole reason why players aren't enjoying PvP.

With the long list of things that could be addressed in PvP it's a damn shame the dev's have chosen to slip this pointless UNDOCUMENTED change in. What are we supposed to take away from this? My opinion is they that they knew this change was coming ...they knew it would destroy multiboxing, thus costing them subscriptions ...so they kept it as quiet as they were able hoping to collect a few extra bucks before everybody caught on.

Oh we'll ...Wildstar coming soon.

[Ualaa]

You can still box all of the world stuff, including non-battleground pvp in enemy cities or at almost any point in the world.
You can also do all of the PvE aspects, from raids to instances to LFR.

Follow has been returned for Arena.
Not sure about rated battlegrounds.
It is gone for normal battlegrounds.

If you're just into the PvE, there are numerous games that are free... I'm looking at Everquest, Everquest II and Vanguard.
If you specifically want battlegrounds, Rift has those and a more advanced (newer) macro system, but the game is a bit more of a resource hog (faster/better computer for the same number of characters or fewer maximum number of characters as a maximum on the same system).

I'm sorry, I can't understand why so many multi-boxers are leaving WoW over this. Of course there are two things I guess I should consider. 1 - I'm not a huge fan of PvP, I will do it but it's not like it flows in my blood. 2 - I'm an old fart and maybe to much of a casual palayer (although I've been in since vanilla, and play almost all day/everyday). So with that said here are a few thoughts on the game. Main thought - it's a game, I pay/play for entertainment, and that's what I get. If it be PvE or PvP. I have fun! I think Blizz did go in the wrong direction with this "fix" to botters, and I understand it hurt the MBing community, but that to me is such a small thing. If you are into PvP as it being the major part of WoW, World PvP is available on a PvP server, where /follow is still allowed.

You have invested so much time, money, and hair making these teams, and because of one aspect, I can't PvP in BGs, quit...I realize you don't get as much honor from World PvP, but with a decent set of toons you could run instance and swap the JP/VP for HP. getting max PvP gear for those toons. Then hopefully when all is said and done Blizz will get the facepalm they are in need of and put back the /follow cmd to all aspects of the game. Then you will be geared and ready when they do. If you do decide or have already quit, just quitting won't resolve the issue, I hope you would email Blizzard and explain to them not only why you quit, but that it will not stop the bots in BGs. They loose more subscriptions than most online games have subscribers, so a loss of 5, 10, 15 even 40 accounts won't get the message to them that they need.

Of course this is my own little IMHO post and you all can do as you see fit, I just hope some will see that MBing in WoW is fun period, and stay.

[MiRai]

First, I just wanted to point out something I found funny with your post.

If you are into PvP as it being the major part of WoW, World PvP is available on a PvP server, where /follow is still allowed.

I would guess that world PvP gets out of hand too quickly for a lone 5-boxer to compete these days and they end up getting camped, whereas, in a battleground there are only so many unorganized randoms (and bots) that can attempt to gang up on them that it's usually easy to win and gear up quickly. That and the fact that you can't really be camped in a random battleground unless your entire team is losing horrifically because you rez with full health and mana.

You have invested so much time, money, and hair making these teams, and because of one aspect, I can't PvP in BGs, quit...I realize you don't get as much honor from World PvP, but with a decent set of toons you could run instance and swap the JP/VP for HP.

What if that was turned around on someone who strictly multiboxes to enjoy PvE content such as heroics and raids? You could still gear up through grinding dailies for VP, but you'd never really get to use that gear where it was intended because /follow will have been removed from instanced PvE content.

Now, the following is just a statement made by my own observations and directed at no one, but with that being said, there are people that called Blizzard every name in the book when they found out /follow had been removed from battlegrounds in patch 5.2, and they tried their hardest to spread the word across the internet that Blizzard was a garbage company who just didn't care about its customers. What's hilarious about that is that some of them have already re-subbed (or are interested in re-subbing again) since quitting and have the same, if not more, accounts than they did before. Blizzard knows what they're doing because they know they currently have (and have had for almost an entire decade), overall, the best game which offers the most fluid gameplay and competitive content (two large selling points for me) when compared to other MMOs on the market.

What if that was turned around on someone who strictly multiboxes to enjoy PvE content such as heroics and raids? You could still gear up through grinding dailies for VP, but you'd never really get to use that gear where it was intended because /follow will have been removed from instanced PvE content.

I understand your point. I even thought that while I wrote what I did. There are many facets to multi-boxing that maybe I just don't know them all, or haven't considered them as viable. I would never think to multibox a raid, but that's me. So in that case/instance I wouldn't care if /follow was removed from raids.

I always considered multiboxing, from the first time I found out about it, as an exceptional leveling tool, not an end game one. Heroics I would be bitter if no /follow was allowed, but I wouldn't quit the game over it. Raids I wouldn't care because I would never consider MBing a raid.

The hardest part of the game IMHO, is doing 5 mans. You get way to many varibles from pugs, one you go so fast you can't loot, the next you might be waiting 5 minutes because the tank has to take the dog out. Then there's the new guy that can't even find the pet talent to take growl of auto, or what gear he should need so he needs all drops. Multiboxing takes care of most of these and many more problems that pugs have to offfer.