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Yeknom12

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Post Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:53 am

Dark Age of Camelot Mouse and Other Issues

I am trying to run a 6 character set up on Dark Age of Camelot. I am running into several issues that I am trying to figure out. First, I am not able to actually see all of the screen for some of the characters I try to log in. The character will log in but parts of the screen are cut off.

Second, I am unable to actually log one of the six characters in. When it reaches the initial load in screen, whereupon I choose the realm, I am unable to choose the realm which would allow me to load said character in.

Third, and the most problematic for me, I cannot use the mouse to target anything with the first character I load in, which is going to be my primary driving/enemy targeting character.

What should I do to solve these issues?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Post Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:39 am

Re: Dark Age of Camelot Mouse and Other Issues

These issues may all be related to the core issue -- the first issue you describe. DAOC does not adjust its resolution to the size of the window as most games do, and this means the display is cut off and the mouse from Inner Space (while resized like this) may be inaccurate.

There's two possible ways to correct this.
1. Adjust your ISBoxer Window Layout so that the window size is one of DAOC's natively supported sizes (ideally the one you already have selected in the game, so you don't have to try to fiddle with settings with a misaligned mouse cursor). To be safe you can also just remove your Window Layout entirely -- expand Window Layouts in the top left pane and select yours, then in the bottom left under Character Sets, select yours there and press Delete in order to remove the Window Layout from your Character Set
2. If you set the game to fullscreen mode, it's possible the game might be forced to accept the size specified by ISBoxer. Most games do, but again DAOC is a special case
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Post Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:50 am

Re: Dark Age of Camelot Mouse and Other Issues

In following your first suggestion it did allow me to load all of the characters in and it did allow me to drive with the initial character (as well as to use the mouse to click) but I am not able to see all of the characters on the monitor at once, I have to rotate between the screens. They all load in on top of one another and do not fill up the entire screen.
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Post Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:11 am

Re: Dark Age of Camelot Mouse and Other Issues

I deleted my entire team in inner space and remade it. I simply went with the recommended things to do for the game.

I then deleted my window settings as was suggested.

I can now long in all 6 characters and target with each one individually.

The first three characters are in a small version of full-screen mode (they take up a portion of the screen and are layered one upon the other). I am able to see the 4th, 5th and 6th characters, as their windows are larger.

The last three characters are in a forced windows version of full screen mode (they take up the entire screen and are layered one upon the other).

The three screens that are smaller are all receiving broadcast keys no matter the window in the forefront.

The three larger screens will broadcast to the smaller screens but only intermittently broadcast to one another if one of them is in the forefront and never receive any broadcast if one of them ins't in the forefront. If I switch quickly over to one of the larger windows they will continue with the action they should have been doing while I was on a different screen but the character that was originally in the forefront will cease to do what they were doing. This only applies to the larger 3 screens.


All I am trying to do is have one larger window with 5 smaller ones that I do not have to swap between, though I will settle for having to swap between them.

What am I doing wrong here? This is rather frustrating and I am sure it is something I am doing wrong.
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Post Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:31 pm

Re: Dark Age of Camelot Mouse and Other Issues

Yeknom12 wrote:The first three characters are in a small version of full-screen mode (they take up a portion of the screen and are layered one upon the other). I am able to see the 4th, 5th and 6th characters, as their windows are larger.

The last three characters are in a forced windows version of full screen mode (they take up the entire screen and are layered one upon the other).

The three screens that are smaller are all receiving broadcast keys no matter the window in the forefront.

You're going to want them all to have the same video settings in the game as far as windowed/fullscreen and resolution.

The input difference here between full screen mode and windowed mode (the setting in the game) is due to having the "Make game believe it is foreground window" option disabled in your Character Set -- this not being checked by default is an oversight in the ISBoxer code that I have corrected as of now for the next update. For now you can just go check the box.

All I am trying to do is have one larger window with 5 smaller ones that I do not have to swap between, though I will settle for having to swap between them.

First things first ;)

Once you have solved the other issues, you can learn about Video FX for setting up views of the other windows. If you set your video settings in a way that leaves extra space on the screen, you can set up dxNothing to show a view of each window along the edges of the screen, instead of putting the VFX views on top of your actual game window. Common modifications: Video FX alternative to Window Layouts
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Post Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:56 pm

Re: Dark Age of Camelot Mouse and Other Issues

Thanks for the help. I have made sure that all of the settings /windows/resolutions are the same.

After checking the box you said to check nothing changed.

The last three characters all still log in far too big to be of any use and I cannot see their entire screen.

When I bring them to the front by clicking on them I cannot use the mouse to target anything with them and they do not broadcast nor receive commands.

I cannot actually do anything with the last three characters other than log them into the game and swap to them by clicking my mouse on them.

So the issues are: Characters 4-6 when logged in are unable to use the mouse to click anything and are not of the correct size and resolution to be seen properly (most of the screen is out of view).

The 4th, 5th and 6th characters are not receive any form of broadcast and are not broadcasting.

I have been at this for the better part of three days now and have had very little progress. I have tried getting help in the IRC channel. I have watched every video you guys have made that I have been able to find.

I have read every post I can find on DAOC and ISBoxer and am no closer to solving my issue. I will keep trying for a day or two more and if I have no better luck at solving the issue I will have to ask for a refund.

Barring the ability to get a refund I will simply have to let my time expire and chalk up the money spent to a good effort that didn't pan out.

Thanks for your help and thanks for any future help on this issue.
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:54 am

Re: Dark Age of Camelot Mouse and Other Issues

Any further suggestions about what I should do?
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:18 am

Re: Dark Age of Camelot Mouse and Other Issues

There's no Dark Age of Camelot video to explain how to correct the issue you're having, and I'm not sure anyone in the chat room has experience with DAOC to help you with this either. If you end up wanting a refund, just go to the My Account page on lavishsoft.com and click the refund button where it shows your subscription info.

Thanks for the help. I have made sure that all of the settings /windows/resolutions are the same.
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The last three characters all still log in far too big to be of any use and I cannot see their entire screen.

I'm a little unclear on how 3 of your characters are different from the others if all of the settings/windows/resolutions are the same -- that would actually be a very strong and obvious indicator that they're not the same.... You may need to re-launch the game after changing the in-game video settings

After checking the box you said to check nothing changed.

Were the game instances up at the time? After Exporting, if the game is open, you would either have to re-launch or switch between all of the game windows in order for this option to take effect


Show me your ISBoxer configuration. This won't help me verify your DAOC video settings, but I can at least see what you've configured on the ISBoxer side. http://isboxer.com/wiki/Configuration_Sharing
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:39 am

Re: Dark Age of Camelot Mouse and Other Issues

I have looked into the video settings of the game and made sure that each video setting was full screen 1680x1050 for each account and for each character on each account. I have done this at least a dozen times to make sure I am not crazy. So I am sure that the in-game-settings for video are all identical.

Characters 4, 5 and 6 are still appearing way out of resolution, providing me a glimpse of their screen only. When I click on the to bring to the larger window view they are still not showing me their entire window and I am unable to use their mouse cursor to click on anything.

Here is a link to my ISBOXER configuration.

http://privatepaste.com/download/f7f472f1b1

As an afterthought, after I originally posted this response I tried to change 1 of the characters in the group to a different character. I ran the wizard to set up a group, added in the name of a different character from the account that originally was the 4th account to be loaded in (still is the 4th). When I changed the character the screen resolution was fine. I did not change anything else, I just followed what the wizard suggested and the 4th account loaded in fine. The 5th and 6th accounts (having not changed the character) still loaded in with distorted resolution.

So I changed the characters on the 4th, 5th and 6th accounts to different characters and they load fine. Now I have no idea where to look to see why the original characters do not have the same resolution.
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Post Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:16 am

Re: Dark Age of Camelot Mouse and Other Issues

Yeknom12 wrote:I have looked into the video settings of the game and made sure that each video setting was full screen 1680x1050 for each account and for each character on each account. I have done this at least a dozen times to make sure I am not crazy. So I am sure that the in-game-settings for video are all identical.

Are you doing this with the game launched outside of ISBoxer? ISBoxer virtualizes your user.dat file, which stores your video settings, so that when playing with ISBoxer each instance can have different settings if desired. When launching without ISBoxer, they're all going to use the main user.dat file and have the same settings.

If you can't view/fix the settings with your team launched through ISBoxer, you can reset these files. Open up %appdata%\Electronic Arts\Dark Age of Camelot\LotM (or whatever the current folder within "Dark Age of Camelot" there is) and see all of the user-*.dat files -- delete all of the per-Character ones and leave the main user.dat file. If you don't know how to get to that, press Windows+E to bring up Windows Explorer, then in the address/path bar at the top, paste in %appdata%\Electronic Arts\Dark Age of Camelot and go from there.

Your mention of using a different Character that worked fine suggests that the above will work to get them the same.



I see from your configuration that you have removed the Window Layout from your Character Set as instructed. I also see that "Make game believe it is foreground window (the game may otherwise ignore buttons)" is not checked in your Character Set, so do go check that box (I'm assuming you made a new set since checking the box and didn't check it again in the new set)
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