Druanor wrote:Wow Shadow...nice setup man. That makes so much sense. I had Follow mapped to Shift F and that was still getting old real quick, putting it on "Q" is a really convenient place, I rarely use strafe anyways. I usually just hold my right click on the mouse and run forward, good enough for me.
I often bind Q and E to thing I want to use in MMO's as most will change A and D to strafe when you hold the right mouse button down. Seems silly to need two keys for strafe when you look at it that way.
Druanor wrote:Just wanted to say thank you for divulging your setup, it really helps. And in that light, would you entertain some follow up questions? I'll just go right down the order you presented it in.
Sure, I enjoy talking and sharing setups almost as much as playing =).
Druanor wrote:You use E to break follow, I understand the concept but not the execution part (of course). So you send (broadcast) an E to the game (probably All w/o Current) in Step 1 and then? How do you get some kind of movement from the slaves to actually break follow? And do you use Action Target Groups to distinguish your melee from caster type characters? Do Action Target Groups even work with Lotro?
When I hit E, it broadcasts 'W" to all my slaves w/o current (well to all my non-melee). Any movement in game is enough to break follow. Initially, I used the "Others jump" keymap that was setup by default, but i realized it was slower that just tapping an movement key. I then went to tapping my up/down arrow, but that was a stretch for the fingers. I still use the arrows for non-combat when i need to break follow with all characters (using a stable master comes to mind... hitting follow while on a stable horse will dismount you, and having all my guys run after my front man while he's on a horse is comical at first, but annoying the 2nd time.).
Druanor wrote:And do you use Action Target Groups to distinguish your melee from caster type characters? Do Action Target Groups even work with Lotro?
Yes, thats exactly how I'm doing it. I currently have a ATG for each class, although I'll prob expand that when i get to spots where i actually need healing (and from multiples party members).
Druanor wrote:Mouse4 - one step with F1 and then F2? (from previous discussions?)
More or less, yes. I have a complicated setup described by creo in another post where i can "drive" with any character in party, and it remaps come key settings when i switch slots. When I am driving my guardian, who is always my fellowship lead, it does exactly what you said F1, and then F2 in the next step. When my 2nd char drives, it sends different key strokes to each slot so that every one has my minstrel selected. It's a messy setup, and really covered better by creo. I can certainly help you get it setup, but it might be worthy of it own post.
Druanor wrote:Mouse6 - This one throws me a bit...You said "have all assist and call my melee slaves to engage with mouse 6". I see what your trying to accomplish, but I can't figure out the sequence in ISB. By using mouse4 doesn't that give you an "assist" function? And then the "melee engage" is just killing me hehe. Do the melee slaves follow your "tank" to the target? Do you use the in game option to "move to target"? How do you tell them to engage?
With skill target forwarding, yes, you can just keep your tank selected, and everyone will attack your tank's target. I've played enough MMO's to know that to tank properly, sometimes you need to juggle targets to keep agro, and the DPS should NOT always follow your target. 80% it works fine though. You also can not interact with NPC's via target forwarding, you need a real assist key somewhere for that purpose.
My mouse6 is step1: assist (F-> all others), and step 2 (U-> all melee). U is the default key to interact with target. For a melee class with "Move to attack" enabled, it will turn on auto attack and walk you up to the enemy's face. This can be dangerous if you dont have what you think selected, as I found out when using F10 (select nearest npc) + U to try to loot.
Druanor wrote:u - just broadcast a "u" to All w/o Current? Do you use a F2 in there someplace?
Correct, except I actually use w/ Current so my main talks to the quest giver as well. I've already clicked F2 with mouse4 before this, and another F2 would de-select the quest giver post assist.
Druanor wrote:f- Again just broadcast an "f" to All w/o Current?
Druanor wrote:Arrow keys - This is the one causing me the most problems currently. I tried to setup the arrow keys and had no luck getting them to work, then I tried XtremePain's idea to use the /*-+ keys on the Numpad (from a previous post in this forum) and those don't work either. I know it's something I am doing wrong. I created a new Mapped key called "Slave Forward" and assigned the "/" key as the Hotkey, with Hold off and pressed or release. Then under Step 1 I have 2 actions: first to send "w" to all others and then an F2 to all others. I get no response from the slaves at all. No movement. I did notice in the Lotro keymaps that you can assign 2 different sets of keymaps for the movement buttons, standard is WASD so do you have to setup the arrow keys (or /*-+)in Lotro's keymap section (as a 2nd binding) to make it work?
For movement keys that you want to hold, you need Hold = on. Your salves may be walking forward for a split second and then stopping. The Hold = on i believe sends a key down command, and doesn't send a key up until you stop holding it. This allows you to hold the key and the slaves think you are holding it down.
I have up arrow mapped to "W-> all others". You shouldn't have to change the key bindings in LOTRO, and i like to avoid that whenever possible. I dont have a F2 in there and i dont think you can if you are doing a hold type key.
Druanor wrote:Again thanks for all the help. This has turned out to be more complicated than I had thought it would be. Your posts have helped me get a handle on ISB and Lotro. At least I think I am asking more intelligent questions lol.
No problem. I enjoy it, and explaining it to other people helps me learn it better myself.