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MichaelHCboxer

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Post Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:52 pm

Question about faster RAM upgrade

Hey Mirai,
Since you seem to be VERY knowledgable when it comes to components, would you mind directing me towards some RAM?
I have the 32gig/patriot/2133mhz/10 timing.

I was looking at some faster RAM. Like the following:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820233659
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820233658

I had a VERY difficult time finding reviews of it, and a difficult time finding reviews of it with the x79-deluxe.
So i'm trying to find out if this is compatible with X79Deluxe (not the p9x79) and the i7-4920k @3.7ghz

Thanks for the help.
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Post Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:13 pm

Re: Question about faster RAM upgrade

Most RAM kits above 1866MHz are going to require 1.65V which exceeds both the JEDEC standard and Intel's specification. While people do run this type of RAM and they will claim it's "safe," I would never recommend any RAM that requires more than 1.5V (which has been the spec for a few years now with both 32nm and 22nm CPUs). Even Asus has stated that you're going to be hard-pressed to use speeds faster than 1866MHz if you expect to ever populate all 8 DIMM slots on one of their X79 boards:

1) DDR3-1866 is supported as a stock speed. However, it is only supported with one DIMM per channel. If all slots are populated, then the maximum supported memory speed is DDR3-1600. Both situations are likely subject to memory timing, too. Intel usually makes this information available in their white papers. (Source)

There are 2133MHz RAM kits that do exist which run at 1.5V, but their timings are usually a bit slower than those running at 1.65V; and that's because in order to reach those lower timings it's usually required to pump those modules with extra voltage -- The same way that you pump extra voltage into your CPU to reach a higher overclock.

With that being said, it is highly unlikely that you're are going to see any boost in FPS at all, especially with a game like Diablo III where there isn't much going on in game, when running faster than 1600/1866 RAM. RAM is likely to be the least of your concern in a game like Diablo III which doesn't take place in a 3D world and if you want more performance then you should look into overclocking either your GPU or your CPU, or possibly moving to an SLI setup.

I'll assume you meant 4930K, but that's the same CPU I run and I have zero load issues with D3. Even when running only a single GTX 780 Ti (w/ SweetFX) I was still only using about half of the GPU using fore/background FPS of 60/30. I don't know if you kept the 780 Ti you had or if you reverted back to the 780, but if you feel you still have a bottleneck then you should read this Wiki entry.

As for RAM, here's how to roughly calculate how fast memory access speeds will be:

Code:
CAS Latency / Memory Speed = Access Time

10 / 2133 = 0.00469 seconds
8  / 2133 = 0.00375 seconds

Are you going to notice the .00094 seconds when accessing data? If you say yes, I'm going to call you a liar.

Here are two examples of real world gaming when it comes to memory speed:
Example 1
Example 2

The only difference I've ever seen when it comes to RAM speed is Battlefield 4, and I didn't care enough to read the benchmarks more closely since EA makes the game and I have no interest in the games that they produce. -_-

TL;DR - Find the lowest timings that use 1.5V at the price you're willing to pay and keep in mind both the chipset's specifications and limitations.
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Post Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:49 pm

Re: Question about faster RAM upgrade

thank for the awesome reply,
first off, i need to stop posting on my iphone because i have made mistakes before confusing 4920 with 4820 k LOL i have a 4820k
fourty eight twenty hahhaa.
(sorry bout that)
I currently use this ram
http://www.ramexperts.com/patriot-pv332 ... d-kit.html

I have four DIMM slots filled, but there are 4 still open (mobo has 8 total)
Here are my specs
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4820K CPU @ 3.70GHz

Memory (RAM) 32.0 GB 7.9
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 7.9
Gaming graphics 19041 MB Total available graphics memory 7.9
Primary hard disk 3GB Free (119GB Total) 7.7
Windows 7 Professional

System
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Manufacturer System manufacturer
Model System Product Name - Asus x79 - Deluxe
Total amount of system memory 32.0 GB RAM
System type 64-bit operating system
Number of processor cores 4

Storage
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Total size of hard disk(s) 119 GB
Disk partition (C:) 3 GB Free (119 GB Total)
Media drive (D:) CD/DVD
Disk partition (Z:) 72 MB Free (100 MB Total)

Graphics
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Display adapter type NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
Total available graphics memory 19169 MB
Dedicated graphics memory 3072 MB
Dedicated system memory 0 MB
Shared system memory 16097 MB
Display adapter driver version 9.18.13.3750
Primary monitor resolution 1360x768

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So i noticed you said 1600 is the max if ALL DIMM slots are in use. Since im only using 4 DIMM slots and 4 are still open, is it ok that i am using 2133mhz? This ram is also 1.5v.. Or should i just return the ram and get quad core 8gig that run at 1600/9 ?
I would like to use a quad DIMM setup, i heard that was best to do with the with 4820k/x79..
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Post Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:47 pm

Re: Question about faster RAM upgrade

Alright, so you have a 4820K, not a 4930K -- These details are usually important. A quad-core CPU on the X79 chipset is going to kind of be a waste because X79 is an Enthusiast/Extreme chipset (that's what the "E" in Sandy Bridge E or Ivy Bridge E and, soon to be, Haswell-E stands for). The only reason to be using an X79 chipset, in my opinion, is to get access to either 6-core CPUs or more than 32GB of RAM -- Both of which you're not using.

MichaelHCboxer wrote:So i noticed you said 1600 is the max if ALL DIMM slots are in use. Since im only using 4 DIMM slots and 4 are still open, is it ok that i am using 2133mhz? This ram is also 1.5v.. Or should i just return the ram and get quad core 8gig that run at 1600/9 ?
I would like to use a quad DIMM setup, i heard that was best to do with the with 4820k/x79..

1600MHz isn't the maximum when populating all DIMM slots, it's just what's supported. That means that if you want to populate all the slots and want a higher speed, you're probably going to need to overclock something to get there.

As for the RAM you have listed, it's fine (unless it's not passing Memtest86+) and I would suggest not wasting any more time or money on RAM. If you want a boost in performance, then you need to either overclock your current CPU, or you need to begin looking at an Intel 4930K 6-core processor; but if you upgrade to a 6-core processor then your next bottleneck is likely going to be the GTX 780 (although it should be fine for multiboxing D3).

And also, that storage drive you have listed only has 3GB of space left on it. This isn't ideal (nor good for an SSD) and you should never entirely fill up any drive if you want to keep getting good performance out of it.
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Post Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:11 pm

Re: Question about faster RAM upgrade

Well poop... I'm in a pickle then..
I jut want diablo 3 to not have random screen freezes, maybe I should downgrade my ram to 16gb and get another card to SLI.. Or just wait for the 6gb gtx to come out.

I would switch my processor to the 4930k, I'm just not sure if my guy at frys would let me do that, I've been abusing my privileges with him as of late hahah
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Post Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:31 pm

Re: Question about faster RAM upgrade

MichaelHCboxer wrote:Well poop... I'm in a pickle then..
I jut want diablo 3 to not have random screen freezes, maybe I should downgrade my ram to 16gb and get another card to SLI

I would switch my processor to the 4930k, I'm just not sure if my guy at frys would let me do that, I've been abusing my privileges with him as of late hahah

I already linked how to look for any bottlenecks your system may have four posts above, but here it is again:

http://isboxer.com/wiki/HOWTO:Tweak_you ... ottlenecks

There's usually no need to just randomly guess which components may be the bottleneck because if you're monitoring your hardware and you get a "spike" in game, then look at what the software has to say about it.

MichaelHCboxer wrote:Or just wait for the 6gb gtx to come out.

You're still thinking about RAM and I've no idea why you're fixated on it -- Whether it be GPU RAM or system RAM, RAM is never an issue unless you're:

    A) Using RAM which is:
    B) Running out of it
    C) Using RAM which runs at a lower speed than your CPU and chipset are spec'd for
As for the 6GB model GPUs... They're no faster than the 3GB counterparts -- They just have twice as much RAM on them, and I highly doubt that four Diablo III clients are eating up more than 3GB of video RAM.
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Post Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:53 pm

Re: Question about faster RAM upgrade

I'm just texan haha Bigger is Better! so i thought more Ram is better :/
well i did the report i had the rubberband/screen freeze/reset issue. Here is the report.. I have no clue how to read this, perhaps you or LaX could assist me.. (like you have been ) :D

Open Hardware Monitor Report

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Version: 0.6.0.0

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Common Language Runtime: 4.0.30319.18444
Operating System: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
Process Type: 64-Bit

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Sensors

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+- ASUS X79-DELUXE (/mainboard)
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+- Intel Core i7-4820K (/intelcpu/0)
| +- CPU Total : 34.6154 0 91.9231 (/intelcpu/0/load/0)
| +- CPU Core #1 : 44.6154 0 93.0769 (/intelcpu/0/load/1)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 45.3846 0 89.2308 (/intelcpu/0/load/2)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 30 0 95.3846 (/intelcpu/0/load/3)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 18.4615 0 94.6154 (/intelcpu/0/load/4)
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+- Generic Memory (/ram)
| +- Memory : 26.5528 26.3273 27.215 (/ram/load/0)
| +- Used Memory : 8.48127 8.40924 8.69279 (/ram/data/0)
| +- Available Memory : 23.4599 23.2484 23.532 (/ram/data/1)
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+- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 (/nvidiagpu/0)
| +- GPU Core : 1097.42 0 1123.55 (/nvidiagpu/0/clock/0)
| +- GPU Memory : 3004.68 3004.68 3004.68 (/nvidiagpu/0/clock/1)
| +- GPU Shader : 2194.84 0 2247.1 (/nvidiagpu/0/clock/2)
| +- GPU Core : 45 42 51 (/nvidiagpu/0/temperature/0)
| +- GPU Core : 54 0 65 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/0)
| +- GPU Memory Controller : 14 0 17 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/1)
| +- GPU Video Engine : 0 0 0 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/2)
| +- GPU Memory : 26.3716 14.417 33.1773 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/3)
| +- GPU : 2403 2175 2463 (/nvidiagpu/0/fan/0)
| +- GPU Fan : 73 68 73 (/nvidiagpu/0/control/0)

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Parameters

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+- ASUS X79-DELUXE (/mainboard)
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+- Intel Core i7-4820K (/intelcpu/0)
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+- Generic Memory (/ram)
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+- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 (/nvidiagpu/0)

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BIOS Vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Version: 0701

System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Name: System Product Name
System Version: System Version

Mainboard Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
Mainboard Name: X79-DELUXE
Mainboard Version: Rev 1.xx

Processor Manufacturer: Intel
Processor Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4820K CPU @ 3.70GHz
Processor Core Count: 4
Processor Core Enabled: 4
Processor Thread Count: 8
Processor External Clock: 100 Mhz

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Memory Device [0] Part Number: 2133 CL11 Series
Memory Device [0] Device Locator: ChannelA_Dimm1
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Memory Device [0] Speed: 2133 MHz

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Memory Device [1] Part Number: ChannelA_Dimm2_PartNum
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Memory Device [4] Part Number: 2133 CL11 Series
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Memory Device [4] Bank Locator: ChannelC
Memory Device [4] Speed: 2133 MHz

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Memory Device [5] Part Number: ChannelC_Dimm2_PartNum
Memory Device [5] Device Locator: ChannelC_Dimm2
Memory Device [5] Bank Locator: ChannelC
Memory Device [5] Speed: 0 MHz

Memory Device [6] Manufacturer: Undefined
Memory Device [6] Part Number: 2133 CL11 Series
Memory Device [6] Device Locator: ChannelD_Dimm1
Memory Device [6] Bank Locator: ChannelD
Memory Device [6] Speed: 2133 MHz

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Memory Device [7] Part Number: ChannelD_Dimm2_PartNum
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Memory Device [7] Speed: 0 MHz

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LPCIO

Chip ID: Unknown Winbond / Nuvoton / Fintek with ID 0xC803 at 0x2E/0x2F

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CPUID

Processor 0

Processor Vendor: Intel
Processor Brand: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4820K CPU @ 3.70GHz
Family: 0x6
Model: 0x3E
Stepping: 0x4

CPUID Return Values

CPU Thread: 0
APIC ID: 0
Processor ID: 0
Core ID: 0
Thread ID: 0

Function EAX EBX ECX EDX
00000000 0000000D 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
00000001 000306E4 00200800 7FBEE3BF BFEBFBFF
00000002 76036301 00F0B2FF 00000000 00CA0000
00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000004 3C004121 01C0003F 0000003F 00000000
00000005 00000040 00000040 00000003 00001120
00000006 00000077 00000002 00000009 00000000
00000007 00000000 00000281 00000000 00000000
00000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000009 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000A 07300403 00000000 00000000 00000603
0000000B 00000001 00000002 00000100 00000000
0000000C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000D 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000
80000000 80000008 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000001 00000000 00000000 00000001 2C100800
80000002 20202020 49202020 6C65746E 20295228
80000003 65726F43 294D5428 2D376920 30323834
80000004 5043204B 20402055 30372E33 007A4847
80000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000006 00000000 00000000 01006040 00000000
80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000100
80000008 0000302E 00000000 00000000 00000000

CPU Thread: 1
APIC ID: 1
Processor ID: 0
Core ID: 0
Thread ID: 1

Function EAX EBX ECX EDX
00000000 0000000D 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
00000001 000306E4 01200800 7FBEE3BF BFEBFBFF
00000002 76036301 00F0B2FF 00000000 00CA0000
00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000004 3C004121 01C0003F 0000003F 00000000
00000005 00000040 00000040 00000003 00001120
00000006 00000077 00000002 00000009 00000000
00000007 00000000 00000281 00000000 00000000
00000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000009 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000A 07300403 00000000 00000000 00000603
0000000B 00000001 00000002 00000100 00000001
0000000C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000D 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000
80000000 80000008 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000001 00000000 00000000 00000001 2C100800
80000002 20202020 49202020 6C65746E 20295228
80000003 65726F43 294D5428 2D376920 30323834
80000004 5043204B 20402055 30372E33 007A4847
80000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000006 00000000 00000000 01006040 00000000
80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000100
80000008 0000302E 00000000 00000000 00000000

CPU Thread: 2
APIC ID: 2
Processor ID: 0
Core ID: 1
Thread ID: 0

Function EAX EBX ECX EDX
00000000 0000000D 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
00000001 000306E4 02200800 7FBEE3BF BFEBFBFF
00000002 76036301 00F0B2FF 00000000 00CA0000
00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000004 3C004121 01C0003F 0000003F 00000000
00000005 00000040 00000040 00000003 00001120
00000006 00000077 00000002 00000009 00000000
00000007 00000000 00000281 00000000 00000000
00000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000009 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000A 07300403 00000000 00000000 00000603
0000000B 00000001 00000002 00000100 00000002
0000000C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000D 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000
80000000 80000008 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000001 00000000 00000000 00000001 2C100800
80000002 20202020 49202020 6C65746E 20295228
80000003 65726F43 294D5428 2D376920 30323834
80000004 5043204B 20402055 30372E33 007A4847
80000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000006 00000000 00000000 01006040 00000000
80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000100
80000008 0000302E 00000000 00000000 00000000

CPU Thread: 3
APIC ID: 3
Processor ID: 0
Core ID: 1
Thread ID: 1

Function EAX EBX ECX EDX
00000000 0000000D 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
00000001 000306E4 03200800 7FBEE3BF BFEBFBFF
00000002 76036301 00F0B2FF 00000000 00CA0000
00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000004 3C004121 01C0003F 0000003F 00000000
00000005 00000040 00000040 00000003 00001120
00000006 00000077 00000002 00000009 00000000
00000007 00000000 00000281 00000000 00000000
00000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000009 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000A 07300403 00000000 00000000 00000603
0000000B 00000001 00000002 00000100 00000003
0000000C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000D 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000
80000000 80000008 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000001 00000000 00000000 00000001 2C100800
80000002 20202020 49202020 6C65746E 20295228
80000003 65726F43 294D5428 2D376920 30323834
80000004 5043204B 20402055 30372E33 007A4847
80000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000006 00000000 00000000 01006040 00000000
80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000100
80000008 0000302E 00000000 00000000 00000000

CPU Thread: 4
APIC ID: 4
Processor ID: 0
Core ID: 2
Thread ID: 0

Function EAX EBX ECX EDX
00000000 0000000D 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
00000001 000306E4 04200800 7FBEE3BF BFEBFBFF
00000002 76036301 00F0B2FF 00000000 00CA0000
00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000004 3C004121 01C0003F 0000003F 00000000
00000005 00000040 00000040 00000003 00001120
00000006 00000077 00000002 00000009 00000000
00000007 00000000 00000281 00000000 00000000
00000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000009 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000A 07300403 00000000 00000000 00000603
0000000B 00000001 00000002 00000100 00000004
0000000C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000D 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000
80000000 80000008 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000001 00000000 00000000 00000001 2C100800
80000002 20202020 49202020 6C65746E 20295228
80000003 65726F43 294D5428 2D376920 30323834
80000004 5043204B 20402055 30372E33 007A4847
80000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000006 00000000 00000000 01006040 00000000
80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000100
80000008 0000302E 00000000 00000000 00000000

CPU Thread: 5
APIC ID: 5
Processor ID: 0
Core ID: 2
Thread ID: 1

Function EAX EBX ECX EDX
00000000 0000000D 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
00000001 000306E4 05200800 7FBEE3BF BFEBFBFF
00000002 76036301 00F0B2FF 00000000 00CA0000
00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000004 3C004121 01C0003F 0000003F 00000000
00000005 00000040 00000040 00000003 00001120
00000006 00000077 00000002 00000009 00000000
00000007 00000000 00000281 00000000 00000000
00000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000009 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000A 07300403 00000000 00000000 00000603
0000000B 00000001 00000002 00000100 00000005
0000000C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000D 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000
80000000 80000008 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000001 00000000 00000000 00000001 2C100800
80000002 20202020 49202020 6C65746E 20295228
80000003 65726F43 294D5428 2D376920 30323834
80000004 5043204B 20402055 30372E33 007A4847
80000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000006 00000000 00000000 01006040 00000000
80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000100
80000008 0000302E 00000000 00000000 00000000

CPU Thread: 6
APIC ID: 6
Processor ID: 0
Core ID: 3
Thread ID: 0

Function EAX EBX ECX EDX
00000000 0000000D 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
00000001 000306E4 06200800 7FBEE3BF BFEBFBFF
00000002 76036301 00F0B2FF 00000000 00CA0000
00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000004 3C004121 01C0003F 0000003F 00000000
00000005 00000040 00000040 00000003 00001120
00000006 00000077 00000002 00000009 00000000
00000007 00000000 00000281 00000000 00000000
00000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000009 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000A 07300403 00000000 00000000 00000603
0000000B 00000001 00000002 00000100 00000006
0000000C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000D 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000
80000000 80000008 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000001 00000000 00000000 00000001 2C100800
80000002 20202020 49202020 6C65746E 20295228
80000003 65726F43 294D5428 2D376920 30323834
80000004 5043204B 20402055 30372E33 007A4847
80000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000006 00000000 00000000 01006040 00000000
80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000100
80000008 0000302E 00000000 00000000 00000000

CPU Thread: 7
APIC ID: 7
Processor ID: 0
Core ID: 3
Thread ID: 1

Function EAX EBX ECX EDX
00000000 0000000D 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
00000001 000306E4 07200800 7FBEE3BF BFEBFBFF
00000002 76036301 00F0B2FF 00000000 00CA0000
00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000004 3C004121 01C0003F 0000003F 00000000
00000005 00000040 00000040 00000003 00001120
00000006 00000077 00000002 00000009 00000000
00000007 00000000 00000281 00000000 00000000
00000008 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000009 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000A 07300403 00000000 00000000 00000603
0000000B 00000001 00000002 00000100 00000007
0000000C 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0000000D 00000007 00000340 00000340 00000000
80000000 80000008 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000001 00000000 00000000 00000001 2C100800
80000002 20202020 49202020 6C65746E 20295228
80000003 65726F43 294D5428 2D376920 30323834
80000004 5043204B 20402055 30372E33 007A4847
80000005 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
80000006 00000000 00000000 01006040 00000000
80000007 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000100
80000008 0000302E 00000000 00000000 00000000

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Intel CPU

Name: Intel Core i7-4820K
Number of Cores: 4
Threads per Core: 2
Timer Frequency: 3.613427 MHz
Time Stamp Counter: Invariant
Estimated Time Stamp Counter Frequency: 3700.42 MHz
Estimated Time Stamp Counter Frequency Error: 0.40963 Mhz
Time Stamp Counter Frequency: 3700.15 MHz

MSR Core #1

MSR EDX EAX
000000CE 00000C10 F0012500
00000198 00002526 00002700
0000019C 00000000 883A0000
000001A2 00000000 00640E00
000001B1 00000000 883A0000
00000606 00000000 000A1003
00000611 00000000 7179DBFE
00000619 00000000 00000000
00000639 00000000 275E9EC7

MSR Core #2

MSR EDX EAX
000000CE 00000C10 F0012500
00000198 00002526 00002700
0000019C 00000000 88400000
000001A2 00000000 00640E00
000001B1 00000000 883A0000
00000606 00000000 000A1003
00000611 00000000 7179DBFE
00000619 00000000 00000000
00000639 00000000 275E9EC7

MSR Core #3

MSR EDX EAX
000000CE 00000C10 F0012500
00000198 00002526 00002700
0000019C 00000000 883D0000
000001A2 00000000 00640E00
000001B1 00000000 883A0000
00000606 00000000 000A1003
00000611 00000000 7179DBFE
00000619 00000000 00000000
00000639 00000000 275E9EC7

MSR Core #4

MSR EDX EAX
000000CE 00000C10 F0012500
00000198 00002526 00002700
0000019C 00000000 883A0000
000001A2 00000000 00640E00
000001B1 00000000 883A0000
00000606 00000000 000A1003
00000611 00000000 7179DBFE
00000619 00000000 00000000
00000639 00000000 275E9EC7

Microarchitecture: Unknown
Time Stamp Counter Multiplier: 0

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AMD Display Library

Status: -1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NVAPI

Version: NVidia Complete Version 1.10
Number of GPUs: 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nvidia GPU

Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
Index: 0
Driver Version: 337.50
Driver Branch: r337_00-108

DeviceID: 0x100410DE
SubSystemID: 0x7843842
RevisionID: 0xA1
ExtDeviceID: 0x1004

Thermal Settings

Sensor[0].Controller: GPU_INTERNAL
Sensor[0].DefaultMinTemp: 0
Sensor[0].DefaultMaxTemp: 127
Sensor[0].CurrentTemp: 45
Sensor[0].Target: GPU

Clocks

Clock[8]: 3004679
Clock[9]: 11
Clock[10]: 571000
Clock[11]: 1
Clock[12]: 648000
Clock[13]: 9
Clock[16]: 85500
Clock[17]: 1
Clock[18]: 27000
Clock[19]: 1
Clock[30]: 2194838
Clock[31]: 17
Clock[32]: 2194838
Clock[33]: 25
Clock[34]: 2194838
Clock[35]: 25
Clock[36]: 1080000
Clock[37]: 9
Clock[40]: 324000
Clock[41]: 9
Clock[42]: 540000
Clock[43]: 9
Clock[44]: 108000
Clock[45]: 1
Clock[50]: 2194838
Clock[51]: 25
Clock[92]: 3004679
Clock[93]: 32
Clock[99]: 571000
Clock[100]: 32
Clock[106]: 648000
Clock[107]: 32
Clock[120]: 85500
Clock[121]: 32
Clock[127]: 27000
Clock[128]: 32
Clock[169]: 2194838
Clock[170]: 32
Clock[176]: 2194838
Clock[177]: 15
Clock[178]: 100
Clock[183]: 2194838
Clock[184]: 15
Clock[185]: 100
Clock[190]: 1080000
Clock[191]: 32
Clock[204]: 324000
Clock[205]: 32
Clock[211]: 540000
Clock[212]: 32
Clock[218]: 108000
Clock[219]: 32
Clock[239]: 2194838
Clock[240]: 15
Clock[241]: 100

Tachometer

Value: 2340

P-States

Percentage[0]: 52
Percentage[1]: 13
Percentage[2]: 0
Percentage[3]: 12

Usages

Usage[1]: 1
Usage[2]: 52
Usage[3]: 60
Usage[4]: 50
Usage[5]: 1
Usage[6]: 13
Usage[7]: 58
Usage[8]: 56
Usage[9]: 1
Usage[11]: 58
Usage[12]: 53
Usage[13]: 1
Usage[14]: 12
Usage[15]: 100
Usage[16]: 100

Cooler Settings

Cooler[0].Type: 1
Cooler[0].Controller: 1
Cooler[0].DefaultMin: 39
Cooler[0].DefaultMax: 100
Cooler[0].CurrentMin: 39
Cooler[0].CurrentMax: 100
Cooler[0].CurrentLevel: 73
Cooler[0].DefaultPolicy: 16
Cooler[0].CurrentPolicy: 1
Cooler[0].Target: 7
Cooler[0].ControlType: 2
Cooler[0].Active: 0

Memory Info

Value[0]: 3145728
Value[1]: 3066560
Value[2]: 0
Value[3]: 16484240
Value[4]: 2316148
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MiRai

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Post Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:26 pm

Re: Question about faster RAM upgrade

The report shows that your CPU is practically maxed out:

Code:
+- Intel Core i7-4820K (/intelcpu/0)
| +- CPU Total   : 34.6154 0 91.9231 (/intelcpu/0/load/0)
| +- CPU Core #1 : 44.6154 0 93.0769 (/intelcpu/0/load/1)
| +- CPU Core #2 : 45.3846 0 89.2308 (/intelcpu/0/load/2)
| +- CPU Core #3 : 30      0 95.3846 (/intelcpu/0/load/3)
| +- CPU Core #4 : 18.4615 0 94.6154 (/intelcpu/0/load/4)

The numbers in the third column indicate that your CPU is hitting 90% and above, whereas your GPU is only hitting 65%.

Code:
| +- GPU Core : 54 0 65 (/nvidiagpu/0/load/0)

I don't know how many FPS you're playing at, but you can probably lower it if you want to save on CPU, or turn your settings down:

http://isboxer.com/wiki/HOWTO:Tweak_you ... S_Limiting
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Post Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:56 pm

Re: Question about faster RAM upgrade

Thanks mirai, it means a lot to me that you are helping me out.
I went into cpu strat wizard and selected round robbin.
also made it 55foreground/30background
When i run in tiled mode, are the 3 windows at the bottom of my screen considered the "background"?
what about overclocking the cpu? just a hair? i don't know hwo to do that though.. maybe too risky for a newbie like me ><

Also, maybe i should return that ram i bought, get 16gb instead($184) (it was $334) and see if they can take back the 4820k i have. And get the 4930k?
But i remember you saying the 4930k would be fine, but then my GPU might bottleneck?
I have about $500 or so to go around, assuming the would let me returnt he 4820k for store credit (I paid $329 for it) what would you suggest?
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Post Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:02 pm

Re: Question about faster RAM upgrade

MichaelHCboxer wrote:I went into cpu strat wizard and selected round robbin

There isn't a "right" answer for what to choose in the CPU Strategy Wizard and sometimes you have to test a few different configurations to see what works best for your system. You can also manually adjust the CPU affinity under the performance tab of each Slot in your Character Set (Hint: Don't set a Slot to use a virtual core if you don't give it its logical core).

MichaelHCboxer wrote:also made it 55foreground/30background

Without knowing what foreground framerate you were using before, I can't say how much of a performance increase you'd likely see, but if you went from 60 > 55, then I'd expect you wouldn't see much of a gain, if any.

For some reason Diablo III is kind of a resource hog, and a lot of people tend to drop their fore/background framerates to 30/30 -- This is the same framerate I used when recording the old D3 gameplay video that's listed on the D3 Quick Start Guide Wiki page.

While 60/30 (or even 60/60) is easier on the eyes, such framerates usually require a bit more performance from your hardware, but you typically don't want to drop your background FPS below 30 in D3 because you might end up getting de-sync'd more often.

MichaelHCboxer wrote:When i run in tiled mode, are the 3 windows at the bottom of my screen considered the "background"?

The game client which you're playing from is considered foreground and everything else is considered background.

MichaelHCboxer wrote:what about overclocking the cpu? just a hair? i don't know hwo to do that though.. maybe too risky for a newbie like me ><

While there are plenty of guides on the internet that explain how to overclock, it's easy to find one that might steer you wrong; and when it comes down to it, you're the only one responsible for frying your own hardware when overclocking. :)

These days overclocking is much easier than it ever was in the past, but you're already pushing over 90% load on the CPU and unless you're willing to try for a nice high overclock (~800MHz - 1GHz), then I would guess that it's not going to make much of a difference either way because only a few hundred MHz is unlikely going to be a game changer. A super high overclock is going to require that you constantly tweak voltages, stress test, re-tweak, stress test, re-tweak, etc... until it's dialed in nice and tight -- At least that's how any 'respectable' overclocker would do it.

MichaelHCboxer wrote:Also, maybe i should return that ram i bought, get 16gb instead($184) (it was $334) and see if they can take back the 4820k i have. And get the 4930k?

I have about $500 or so to go around, assuming the would let me returnt he 4820k for store credit (I paid $329 for it) what would you suggest?

It's much, much easier to grab a 4930K if you have the ability to do so. It's also not a big deal only having only 16GB for a gaming/multiboxing system, and unless you plan on possibly 10-boxing some games anytime soon then you're not going to run out of memory.

MichaelHCboxer wrote:But i remember you saying the 4930k would be fine, but then my GPU might bottleneck?

Again, I don't know what foreground framerate you were running when you provided the report, but I'll assume it was 60 FPS. So, if you were already running 60/30 on your accounts, and your GPU was only at 65% load, then your GPU isn't going to go up much higher than that.

I was able to run 60/60 across 4 accounts on a single GTX 780 Ti and I was peaking around 70% GPU load out in Caldeum, so if you stick to 60/30, then your GTX 780 should perform just fine.

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One additional bit of information I will provide (assuming you haven't done these already), is to tweak a few things on your Windows 7 install when using an SSD:

How to: Turn Off or Shrink the Hibernation File in Windows 7 < Assuming you do not use Hibernation on your computer (most non-laptop users don't)
How to: Turn Off or Shrink Page file in Windows 7 < I recommend NOT turning off the Page File, just set it to 1024MB like he shows in the video.

The above tweaks will free up a lot of space on your SSD (again, assuming you haven't already done these).
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